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Why Ebay Is Still The Best Online For Sellers

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Posted 11/01/2015   11:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And now it seems he's a liar. If ebay had truly stepped in, this couldn't have happened.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...negative_365
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Posted 11/01/2015   12:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kcaramat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is getting too funny ! Now someone that just joins the forum today says he is the tattle tale. Sounds like the seller to me, with a different ID. What's anyone else think ?





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Posted 11/01/2015   12:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CollectorMT to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think you sound like a dummy! I live in Montana, not Rhode Island
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Posted 11/01/2015   12:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kcaramat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I saw that. Didn't believe it either.
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Posted 11/01/2015   12:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CollectorMT to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's alright, I live in Missoula, MT... GO GRIZ!
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Posted 11/01/2015   12:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is an interesting philosophical discussion. While I agree that a prospective buyer need not alert a seller that his item is misidentified and/or badly under-priced, I find, in the interests of fair play, that I am drawn in the opposite direction. But that's just my personal moral compass. I do remember an ebay item from a couple of years or so ago that was listed for sale at about half of its Scott catalogue value. But I knew that Scott was, in this instance wrong by about a factor of 10 to 15. I made the seller aware of this & gave him the opportunity to cancel it (no bids had been made). I also told him that if he decided to leave it up for sale that I would bid on it. He left it up for sale ... so I bid. But in the interim someone else apparently became aware of the item & its true value. Even though I made what I thought was a fair bid (about 8 times Scott), I was outbid. In this case, the seller was very lucky. Note that the outcome would almost certainly have been the same even had I not contacted the seller & simply made my bid.
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Posted 11/01/2015   12:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dutchman1948 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ebay has a lot of buyers that look for seller errors in listings and will not tell them.

They try to buy and of course in many cases the seller is SOL. These buyers do nothing wrong except take advantage of seller errors.

I however disagree, and email the seller so he can be allowed to correct the error for ethical reasons. Not just with ID or pricing.

I had a buyer buy an item and then file a SNAD because there was an error between the picture and title. He knew because of ebay policy, I would have to pay for return shipping or just refund. He got the item free as I refunded with no return as it was cheaper.

To me, this is unethical. He can only do it once to me as I blocked him right away.

Question is, how many others do buyers like this take advantage of.
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Edited by dutchman1948 - 11/01/2015 12:34 pm
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Posted 11/01/2015   1:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some of you have sounded a trumpet for informing a seller who misrepresents material in the interest of protecting buyers. What kind of moral compass is it that does not point both ways? The first time I encounter a seller listing error, especially for a seller who is new at it, my inclination is to send a corrective note. If that is disregarded, then all bets are off, and I don't give that seller a heads up either way in the future.

Some people contend that business is an arena in which the law of the jungle is the natural order of things. But that is true only if we make it so. I know that Christianity is on the outs with a growing portion of the American population, and the effects of that are becoming increasingly evident in the way people in American culture increasingly disregard the humanity of others. But one of the most basic and universal principals of Christianity is that people should treat others as they themselves would wish to be treated.

I still keep hoping that there will always be people who seek to live by that. God help us when they are gone.

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Edited by essayk - 11/01/2015 1:24 pm
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Posted 11/01/2015   1:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Another reason to be aware of what goes on with ebay.
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Posted 11/01/2015   2:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are 2 reasons why CollectorMT was wrong to do this.

1- Whatever you do, do it BEFORE the lot ends not after
2- While it is possible to contact any seller after any auction, it is NOT possible to contact buyers. ebay has made the identity of all buyers completely anonymous so we have no way to warn buyers that they got fooled or ripped off. Since buyers have no way to acquire additional info once the auction has ended, it's extremely low-brow to be a post-auction interloper when only sellers can benefit.
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Posted 11/01/2015   2:26 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I smell a rat. There is some major misrepresentation going on here.


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I called ebay and with their blessing, they guided me through the process of cancellation.


Umm, nope. ebay most certainly would NOT have allowed a seller to cancel the auction after the fact. Had it been before the auction was finalized, I would have believed it. Bottom line: this seller was obligated to complete the contract, and ebay would have concurred in that assessment.

This seller is yet another shining example of why ebay sellers get a bad rap. You're doing the rest of us no favors when you back out of an obligation.

What is galling is the greed. Conceivably the seller purchased this as a 499 block, meaning they should have been ELATED with a $130 sale. But no, that's not good enough. Gotta welch on the deal and try to get more.

smh.
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Posted 11/01/2015   2:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I smell a rat. There is some major misrepresentation going on here.


I could not agree more. My guess is that IF he did contact ebay, he misrepresented the outcome and his intentions. He probably said the item was misidentified as a LESS VALUABLE item, or blanketly asked how to cancel a transaction. There is no way ebay would have cancelled the transaction otherwise without obtaining the buyer's consent.
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Posted 11/01/2015   3:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How to cancel an ebay auction:


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Occasionally, you may need to cancel a transaction, for instance, if the item is broken or you made a mistake when listing it.


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If you cancel a transaction, the buyer may be disappointed or feel that you didn't honor your side of the bargain. Keep in mind that:
If you cancel a transaction, it may be considered a defect and count against your seller performance. Learn more about seller performance standards.
If you cancel a transaction, the buyer can still leave you negative or neutral Feedback about the transaction.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/can...process.html
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Edited by Jenny2U - 11/01/2015 3:21 pm
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Posted 11/01/2015   3:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think ebay cares what I think. I'm likely stupid for many other reasons though. I can't speak to your being blocked. But I find this thread interesting.
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Posted 11/01/2015   3:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like Jenny2U beat me to it. I'll leave this up anyways.

This is not a simple situation where we know all of the details. The amount of assumptions and logical fallacies being argued here is making my head hurt. I'm in agreement with essayk that "people should treat others as they themselves would wish to be treated."

It would help if we all stuck to the facts.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/can...process.html


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Occasionally, you may need to cancel a transaction, for instance, if the item is broken or you made a mistake when listing it.

If you've sold an item but can't complete the sale, you may be able to cancel the transaction in My ebay.
Cancel a transaction

When you need to cancel a transaction, it's a good practice to first let the buyer know you're canceling it and why.

You can cancel a transaction:
  • Up to 30 days after the sale
  • Even if your buyer has already paid for the item


Emphasis mine. Then further down the page:

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If you cancel a transaction, the buyer can still leave you negative or neutral Feedback about the transaction.
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Ryan = HDNAC = DNA = HDC = Hysterical DNA Collector = Historical DNA Collector = me who just loves stamps :)
Edited by Historical DNA Collector - 11/01/2015 3:33 pm
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