Why Ebay Is Still The Best Online For Sellers

I've followed this comedy for the last couple of days.
I can't make any comments about ebay affecting me personally
since I have never bought or sold anything on ebay.

But I have gone to country auctions and a few stamp auctions
( Maresch & Son) and at those you bid, you win and it's
yours.
You got a good deal. OK
You got a steal. Even better.
You paid too much. Too bad

The seller keeps on mentioning that he is new on ebay,
he is naive and didn't know about stamps and what they're
worth.
Well too bad, either find out what you got or take
your chances.
Stop whining about getting taken, what was it you said?
"taking Candy from a baby"?
You mentioned that you are a 60 year real estate salesman broker actually, in business for 38 years.
Wow, so you're no dummy then?
Just greedy.

I'm a good decade older than you and for sure paid too much
for some items over the years and would have liked
getting way more for stuff I sold too cheap(specially cars)
But that's life. It happened and I tried making better deals
next time.
Don't go crying that you deserve honour and truth.
That's pathetic.

You entered into a deal. And you weaseled out of it due to greed.

I just hope that you get zilch for the block when you next try to
peddle it.

New to ebay? He has over 100 feedbacks.

Hi essayk
Thank you for your post. Wow! I have sat back not wanting to post and stir up what appears to be anger. I have read some posts slandering me while others statements are completely untrue.What a great first day in the classroom it has been for me. When I came to your site it was truly for a second opinion. I had already completed the cancellation of the ebay transaction. It was done with their help & blessing. After my first post is when my sweety Patty saw another post "why it's great to be a seller on ebay". Since my block was the star of the show, we posted on it as it well. To read that I am posting under a different ID is absurd. The gentleman who informed me of the listing error truly lives in Montana. I'm not sure who is trying to fabricate a strange tale. I tell the truth and speak the truth so help me God.
To essayk; thank you for sharing your faith. I too am a practicing Christian - I thank God before every meal and believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ. If some of you do not believe me, that's your problem, not mine. I know that I can sleep at night. To those who insist that I should send the block to the winner of the auction. Sorry. I will relist this block some day. I do feel crushed with many of these accusations. I invite you all to check out my feedback prior to this. I try to go above and beyond what is expected. I could accept the negative feedback with no worries. But to be called dishonest and now updated to incompetent. That is not true. I have been a real estate broker for 38 years. Never in a courtroom. I am proud of that fact. In regards to posting under an other ID, that is bizarre. The gentleman who helped me truly lives in Montana. He has messaged me thinking that he has been blocked from your site. My wish is for peace. I would love to befriend your site. It seems heated but
admirable.
May the Peace Of God be with you all!!
Bob

By your own admission you are not familiar with the ways of ebay. That has caused you to overlook something in your bombast.

I started buying at stamp auctions in about 1972 (still do) and when ebay came along I got on board with that in '98 (over $200K in purchases since then). I think I can fairly say I have some experience in both realms. There is an important difference between these venues which you have overlooked, and it is very much a part of why ebay rules work as they do.

Your experience is with auctions run by professionals. ebay has a strong contingent of professional sellers, but it has always provided encouragement and a place for amateur sellers who are not battle seasoned in the art of selling. Newbies deserve and get special treatment - by a standard well observed on this list already. support the newbie as much as possible.

As is true on this list, ebay wants to encourage new sellers, and has put some safeguards into place that bend the rules of the marketplace a bit. Presumably the rationale for that is that it does no good to have newbie amateurs shy from selling after getting burned by a sharpster taking advantage of their inexperience. Of course, what ebay does for newbies, it does for sellers across the board.

Does it irritate me when I win an auction and then find that the seller cancelled the deal after the fact? Yes, it is annoying, especially if I let something similar pass because I had just "bought" it from them. But that is how the game is played on ebay's turf, and all the grousing and whining from us here is not going to change it. In the end it's only money and not worth the compromise of your decency.

You guys know the rules of the ebay game. If you don't want to play by them - then don't. I will, and I will be happy with the results most of the time.

That is how I play the game, and I suggest you do the same.

Oh ebay before the year 2000, over 1/2 the auctions had no picture because camera cost 1000 bux back then. A lot of auctions were nothing more than bets but it was fun and sometimes you hit the jack pot and sometimes you mumbled a few words under your breathe but you knew you were taking a risk. Fun fun fun

Bombast? That's a real cheap shot.
Sounds like you're trying shut me up?

I see you're the one who brought Christianity into this
discussion




This is a stamp forum, nothing to do with religion.
We don't (usually) talk about race,politics,sex,gender, etc etc
and religion is certainly out of bounds here.

And to even bring religion into this thread is totally ridiculous.

The guy is a greedy, selfish human being and he wants to get
some sympathy and forgiveness here by invoking
TRUTH , HONOUR , JESUS CHRIST

Give me a break.
This isn't a Bible school.

If rlmstamps2012 really wants people to believe that he is an
honorable and fair person then he should sell the
stamps to the winner of the auction for the 130 bucks which
was the original agreement.
Maybe then he will receive some of the respect which
he seems to seek here.

Make it right and go on with life.

Amen Litho

Only to speak to what was said 30 or so posts ago. The stamp had 499d written on the back of it. It was clearly a listing error. To the Gentleman who welcomed me to this forum who said," Stay, you will learn a lot." Thank You!! And to all a good night!!
Respectfully,
Bob

rlmstamps you do realize to get any serious money for that block you will have to invest money and have it authenticated and if it comes back not as good as you think your going to lose everything.

Hey shermae,
Thanks for all your support,
Greed. I do not think so. I would rather donate the item to a charity or burn it on youtube. I might have to certify it. Wow. Thats scary. It might cost $82.50. Not all of us on ebay are desperate. I would love to help those that are. Seems like some folks do not care. I hope to be back tomorrow.
Bob

Bob,

If you don't mind I would like to make a final recommendation for you from me.

Don't list an item for sale unless you are sure you can stand behind your identification and grading of it. Period.

When you feel you have given it your best shot, let it go no matter what. Of course you will always have to allow for the possibility that some buyer will come along that knows more about it than you. Let them have the fruit of their superior knowledge.

But when you are in doubt, ask the list for some help BEFORE you list it, or send it in for a certificate.

As for the nay-sayers you have encountered here, give them time to get over it and most will. Those that never can will have to deal with that themselves, but I don't think the list will long tolerate them publically nursing a grudge.

And lest it be overlooked, welcome to the list.

Dear essayk,
Thank you very much. That is a very good thought. I wish I knew about your site before all of this happened. Also thanks to Historical DNA Collector and others who have tried to council me.
I am working on 1200 dpi or higher photos as suggested by Historical DNA Collector. Hopefully by days end I will start a new thread with them.
Thanks to all,
Bob

Stamp Collecting Ethics 101!
My hat's off to CollectorMT for advising the seller regarding his error. Honesty kept him from snapping up the block at a huge savings. The hope of a fantastic bargain is what most of us eagerly look for when we bid on auction lots. And in this case I can't fault the seller for asking to be released from the original winning bid. He posted in ignorance and was educated late in the game.

The seller made a mistake due to lack of knowledge and also failed doing homework to research the stamp's accurate identity. But who here hasn't made an incorrect stamp evaluation? And wouldn't we all be grateful to be educated about our mistake in time to rectify it?

Earlier this year I posted many lots on ebay and made a similar mistake -- but with the opposite consequences. I posted a US beer tax stamp for sale and listed it as being a much rarer version of the same basic design and color. I knew nothing about beer stamps but studied my Scott Specialized Cat I honestly (but incorrectly) identified the item as one valued in the hundreds of bucks.

I was informed by two collectors that my listing was an error. My stamp was a far less rare version (due to a detail I had overlooked). Since no one had bid on my mistake, I edited the offer and corrected the description which led to a sale at a much lower price than I had initially envisioned. Such is life!

It was not, "clearly a listing error". It's highly likely that notation, at the time, was correct.

Please allow me to beat the dead horse...if you are dealing with an older collection, be aware that catalog listings can change over time. It seems obvious that's what happened here.

I think that got lost in all the rancor.

If you list something that isn't as rare or valuable as you realize, you will be notified by ebay members.

If you list something that is more scarce or valuable than you realize, someone will buy it.