Scott 594 Or Something Else?

i am going to get one of those specialize Kiusalas gauge. Peter won't have to ask what gauge I am using now..hahahaha...smiles.. This truly made my day! Thank you! Thank you! Clark for providing this information! Excellent!

Warm regards,

Blazenstar

blazenstar,
I think that you are confusing yourself because of poor technique. The below image gives no information because the left stamp overlaps the rights stamp's perforations. The right stamps perfs just cannot be seen and you are not making a comparison even though you think that you are:



Since you are having significant difficulty comparing perforations, please try to match the tips and NOT the valleys. This may help you greatly.

Regardless, you do provide scans of your stamps that once practiced take less than 30 seconds to identify a "tall" 11x10.5 rotary printing. You don't have to go to as much trouble as I did below. However, to make it clearer I isolated the top right stamp:



Then I selected one edge of perforations. Which one doesn't matter.



I copied it, then pasted it and rotated it 90 degrees. Then I moved it into alignment with the top most perforation.



It's very easy to see that the stamp's horizontal and vertical perforations don't match. This means that it is 11 x 10.5.

its okay. I am going to get the special gauge that Clark recommended. Thank you for your help too. I appreciate it. Clark gave an excellent explanation pertaining to the stamps too. I have had so many telling me not to get a special Gauge, but I agree with Clark and he explained why it would be a good idea for future references.

Blazenstar

Clark explanation was very interesting.. I would suggest all posters to read it in this thread on page 1. I know he is truly correct. He definitely knows what he writes about..smiles

Blazenstar

blazenstar,
Regardless of obtaining any particular gauge, do you understand the merit of my demonstration?

Please summarize what my demonstration depicts in terms of identifying a stamp and at very least perforation types.

yes. of course, Ryan..I understand what you wrote as well. Thank you so much for taking the time to explain this as well with your photos. I appreciate this very much.

I have many of Benny 1 cent stamps, I am sorry, but not all I believe are Scott 632's. I believe the Specialize K. Gauge will be very useful for me when I have block of stamps and grills ect to examine properly. In my own opinion, I believe Clark is a specialist and very knowledgable about different stamps too. He specified differences very clearly in his write up. I saw the K gauge in the website and it looks very detailed and excellent to provide important information for many stamps. I am not going to base on eye alone after that other unused stamps I had purchased in past and turned out to be different.

Blazenstar

Ryan..Clark expressed that "Horizontal perforations on a 11 x10 1/2 were made by bar perforations would be aligned top and bottom of stamp, whereas flatplate and coil waste stamps would probably will not."

blazenstar,
Clark/cfrphoto is at most basic "THE" resource for information regarding "ALL" matters of identification for these types of stamps.

No type of gauge is going to help you if you are unwilling to read what has been presented to you. No gauge on the planet Earth is going to help you achieve what you want especially if you will not listen to reason.

Despite what Clark, others, and myself have been trying to communicate to you, you demonstrate unwillingness to learn.

At this point I am having difficulty caring about expending further energy to help you learn. You have repeatedly ignored what has been presented to you. Upon basic questioning in an academic manner, you disregard everything that has been presented to you.

I desperately desire to educate anyone willing. I also desire to help you learn. However if you continue to "feel" that you are "above" being educated by others, then there is nothing that I can do to help you.

Either acknowledge your humanity that you share with everyone else on this planet in terms of not inherently knowing stamp identification, or let us know that you consider yourself above others.

This is not a pissing match.

This is a situation where opening one's mind will allow for education of the topics at hand.

Please let me know what you decide.

i am not unwilling to learn, Ryan?. please do not insinuate this.. That is so untrue. I am looking at your explanations including others what has been written. Others express to me the reason why it has to be a 632 it is taller than the other stamps ect.
I have used gauge before, and literally was insulted until someone else admitted I was correct before. So, I am not a child, and I do not like to be treated like one. I respect others as well.
I have taught in past as well on many subjects. Please donot insult me at all. I do not show disrespect.

Unfortunately, I may not place stamps anymore in the US section due to the behavior of some of the posters I have experienced.

Blazenstar

im not here to argue. I explaining the truth in a very sincere manner. I feel like I have been targeted in past for no reason at all in the US sections. I don't act above others with their knowledge. I donot know why you would assume this at all.
Yes, Gauge do matter not just visual look. I do know how to use one. I would not have known the difference between a 12 perforation instead of a 11 which so many were arguing with me in past with certain stamps. I felt something was strange with the stamps, and I was correct.I had to show a photo for others to see what I was expressing at the time. I was not the one saying it was a 11 while others saying it could not be a 12 and I was using a gauge incorrectly ect. I had no doubt at that time, but others choose to express differently. After that incident I was surprised by a few posters. I am not saying that everyone knows everything, but atleast I was telling the truth from the start when I showed the photos.
When I looked at these block of stamps, I went through scott's identifer section as well.

blazenstar,
Literally hundreds of posters have previously asked for help in this forum in identifying stamps; few have had the kind of difficulties that you have had. You have not been singled out by others and in fact many, like Ryan and Clark, have worked very hard to help you.




The above demonstrates a big part of the problem here in my opinion. You go into your discovery thinking you have rarer stamps and convincing yourself that you are seeing things when you should be doing the opposite. I recommend that you change this approach and do the opposite. Approach each discovery with the idea that you have the most common stamp. Do this for every ID. Work through each attribute (perforations, dimensions, cancels, etc.) and match each for the most common stamp. If you eliminate each of those, move to the next most common. (You can get an understanding of which are most common by either the catalog value or noting how many were printed/issued.)

If you get through this process and still think you might have a rarer stamp, by all means post good images here and ask for input. If others doubt it is a rarer stamps, simply accept their free opinions and do not push back. If you still feel strongly about the stamp, spend money and send it in for a cert. Then come back and let everyone know the results.

Following what is outlined above will result in far less hassles then you have had to deal with. Alternatively you can continue to do it 'your way' but obviously this has not worked out well for you so far. I would also suggest that you drop the self-serving, personal parts of your posts. I know that you feel the need to defend yourself but much of this is self-inflected. I do concur with you that there have also been some snarky responses but getting defensive certainly does not help. I am offering this advice in an attempt to help you make this experience enjoyable and helpful to yourself and the community. Many posters are volunteering their time and efforts to help others. So please keep in mind that you are basically asking for favors when you seek help. My opinion is that many have shown you tremendous support and help in the face of some pretty frustrating requests for help.

Searching for rarer stamps is an intrinsically great part of our hobby. But posting large amounts of posts, all of which assume that a rare stamp has been found and then pushing back (real or perceived) on the many free expert opinions that may be posted, is never going to serve anyone well. I think that if you change your discover methods and demonstrate this, then you will find a lot less headaches with this forum.
Don

Don..thank you for your thoughtful writings. I finally did receive what exactly what I wanted to view was measurements which Clark provided for my own references. He only wrote one message, and did not continue. I appreciated what he expressed as well. To myself it was not an insult at all, it was very helpful.I compliment him for his knowledge to point out what he wrote in his thread.
Then I am accused things that I am not willing to learn ect., pissing match, that I am ignoring what is presented to me, thinking above others ect.. ect. what in the world? to me those are personal attacks and unnecessary. That is not self inflicted that is a statement of deflection of their own personalities. I said thank you not expecting any other posts and it was continued. In my opinion, that is not correct how one should learn anything educational studies to be insulted. Ryan, as a wonderful specialist as well which he may be since I do not know him personally, did not necessary had to express those words to me. I have NEVER insulted others intentionally in my writings,however have received many that were not justified at all. Others have read my writings and agreed with me too. I have defended myself more than once with unnecessary statements in other threads. This is not what I am accustom to at all and I have noticed it more than once occurred in the threads. I am not going to be treated like a child. Other locations, do not act in this fashion.They do not intentionally insult others. I did not have the K. Gauge and I am grateful to be pointed in that direction to purchase one. If I had one from the start, possibly doubts expressed would not have been projected, including would not have asked questions about my own collection in this forum.
Many in the stamp world have driven others away from collecting which should not be occurring. Have I seen others acting this fashion with all my writings? the answer is no, however a pattern is seen in this room more than once.Why in the world are individuals projecting this mannerism??
Don, I have had rarities from my personal collection that were sold in auction in past. I took the time to learn about those stamps in detail including specialists viewed them face to face years ago. I have paid specialists in past to evaluate them. So not all stamps are rarities,nor do I assume that all must be in my possession. I have expressed this before in here as well.
I do have a large lot of Benjamin Franklin 1 cent greens which includes coils and blocks, and singles.I am not going to show the thread my whole collection, that would be inappropriate.
Honestly, if I have met some of the negative posters and they were qualified examiners in person, I would never return to their offices. They would have lost my business immediately. No one wants that negative manner of communication in a public forum that can be viewed by the world with writings. I would tell others never to assume anyone is not a Professional who come in these rooms. Stamps are not my only priorities.

Sincerely,

Blazenstar

You don't need a specialists gauge to measure the stamps you are posting, the vast majority are common and can be measured with ANY perf gauge.

with the lot of mixed Benjamin Franklin 1 cent green colors, I prefer to use a gauge. After the incident of buying stamps in past with different perforations than what I were told were genuine stamps, I am careful and check each perforations I have in my possession. I believe it is a smart thing to do even when others may choose to do differently.

Sincerely,

Blazenstar

I honestly do not mind buying a specialized one. When I opened the site, it seems to be able to informed different things, which the correcto gauge in my possession does not.Which would be useful for me in more ways than one. Anyway,another benefit would not have to rely to ask questions so much in the room.

Sincerely,

Blazenstar