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Posted 11/07/2015   5:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add dittrich to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
hallo, what if this for color? Dull Red or Orange-Brown?



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Posted 11/07/2015   6:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampCollector1960 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think it's red.
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Posted 11/07/2015   6:37 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On my monitor I see brownish carmine. There were some orange brown printings in 1858 but unless the actual color is dramatically different than what I am seeing, there is no way it could be OB. The OB shade on #26 is rare.
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Posted 11/07/2015   7:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i have 2 image from camera.



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Posted 11/07/2015   9:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful cover, but I agree with sinclair2010 that it is not orange-brown. Especially because of the 1853 date.
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Posted 11/07/2015   10:57 pm  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Probably 1858
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Posted 11/08/2015   05:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for your help. I have scanning with #10 and this stamp



and with #10 to stamp from 11/16/1858

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Posted 11/08/2015   08:08 am  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are you sure the stamp you think is a #10 is actually a #10. By the way, the stamp has inner lines so would be a Type II, Scott #10A using the current classification system.

Type I has four outer framelines and no inner lines.
Type II has four outer framelines and at least one inner line recut, even if only partially recut.
Type III has framelines along the side of the stamp and are not unbroken between stamps. The framelines are continuous from the top of the plate to the bottom of the plate. There are no framelines at the top or bottom of the stamp.
Type IV is the same as Type III but the framelines are broken between each stamp.
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Posted 11/08/2015   08:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@sinclair2010 it is correct stamp #10A for top right.
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Posted 11/08/2015   10:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Type I has four outer framelines and no inner lines.
Type II has four outer framelines and at least one inner line recut, even if only partially recut.

I tried to illustrate what sinclair2010 listed. The first stamp below is a type I imperferate. You can see it has the outer frame lines, both sides, and top and bottom. Then note, it does not have inner frame lines on either side.

The stamp below, I have shown a type II. You can see this stamp has the inner lines that the above stamp lacks. I've marked the right side for reference, You can plainly see the left side also has the inner frame line.
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Posted 11/08/2015   11:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blazenstar to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
first row stamp on right (type 11), isn't it the exact same stamp as the left side on bottom row upside down?
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Posted 11/08/2015   11:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
the right top row stamp is left stamp bottom row = #10 typ II Orange Brown

i to wonder about color from #26
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Posted 11/08/2015   11:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Imperforate 3 cent 1851-57 Scott #10 are Type I only. see my top stamp in post above.
dittrich, the imperforate stamp you have pictured, is a type II. See my second stamp in post above. Type II would be a Scott #10A or #11A.
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Posted 11/08/2015   2:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
KRelyea,
Thank you. I finally found a way to remove my foot from my mouth. Yes, 1858 makes much more sense considering it has perforations. Despite noticing that the date could only be 1858, my tired brain still typed in the wrong one. Doh!

dittrich,
Beautiful cover and stamp!
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Posted 11/08/2015   4:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks @DNA, but to be unaware of color from stamp
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Posted 11/08/2015   7:09 pm  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No problem DNA. Actually my Alexander Simpson "US Postal Markings 1851-1961" reports the only 1853 yrdate cancels are from New York and Greenville Maine.
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