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#85A / #86 / #92?

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Posted 11/13/2015   1:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add dittrich to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
who can to identify the grill?









the grill is very hard with camera to receive. the points to count puzzling
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Edited by dittrich - 11/13/2015 7:24 pm

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Posted 11/13/2015   5:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please don't cut this one up until an expert has given you that advice.

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Posted 11/13/2015   5:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hmm.. I have not a expert within Germany.

the cover is from xx February, can this to be #85a?
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Posted 11/13/2015   6:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Isn't 85 rose (and a different stamp)? You don't mean 63 or 63b, do you, dittrich? Those have no grill.
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Edited by KGB - 11/13/2015 7:01 pm
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Posted 11/13/2015   7:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@ KGB stamp can to be only a #85A or #86 or #92

@ essayk, I do not cut stamp from cover! cover is very good.

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Edited by dittrich - 11/13/2015 7:47 pm
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Posted 11/13/2015   7:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is hard to see the grill. To my troubled eyes, the grill looks more narrow than it is tall. Would that suggest a 92?
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Posted 11/13/2015   9:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jim6092252 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The whole cover is most likely worth more than the stamp would no matter which one it was, I dont think anyone would be able to tell from a picture, someone who was good at grills most likely could tell you if they saw in person.
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Posted 11/13/2015   10:49 pm  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not 85A, but if you're going to dream, you might as well dream big! The points are vertical, not horizontal. Probably #92, "F" Grill.
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Posted 11/14/2015   03:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hallo, @ray.mac to be very unlikely a #85A, but show the bottom vertical press grill line
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Edited by dittrich - 11/14/2015 12:30 pm
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Posted 11/14/2015   12:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just noticed that the "third" pic is actually the fourth and is upside down. The first pic is the UR corner of the cover, so I must revise.

In the third fourth pic, I reference "upper" and "lower" and "top" and "bottom" in terms of the positions in the photo and not the stamp. Counting from the top of the grill near the center column I am counting 15 rows of points plus a row of horizontal half points. In the pic the grill is bounded above by the base of the bust, and extends to about halfway down on Franklin's forehead.

In the first second pic starting at bottom left working to the right and moving up as necessary I cannot count more than 12 columns of points.
As I see it, the first column on left starts a little to the left of the "O" of "ONE" and the last column is on line with the "E" of "CENT"

Based on these images the stamp appears to me to have an F-grill and is Scott #92.



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Edited by essayk - 11/14/2015 1:11 pm
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Posted 11/14/2015   1:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks @essayk, it is very hard to show where is begin and end from grill.

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Posted 11/14/2015   2:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You're getting it, You have the right idea in rotating the stamp 90 degrees for another view. After all, we are looking at a rectangular array.

In this last pic I can see that the bottom of the grill is just a little further down in the design than I had first thought. Now the count looks like 16 rows, bounded by half rows at top and bottom when viewed normally on the stamp. However, the new image does not change my perception of the width of the grill as 12 points.

I am quite sure this is an F-grill.
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Posted 11/14/2015   7:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
waiting
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Edited by dittrich - 11/15/2015 11:12 am
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Posted 11/15/2015   11:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Waiting?
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Posted 11/15/2015   11:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


the grill is full 14x18 points, whether #86 or #85A can only a certificate to attest.

a certificate to be high in price, max. $1000 by PF?
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Edited by dittrich - 11/16/2015 05:32 am
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Posted 11/19/2015   4:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
sadly, I to come not forward with grill. to be points by c from cent?





please help me.
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