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#85A / #86 / #92?

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Posted 11/19/2015   4:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My guess is E grill, I see 16 X 14.
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Posted 11/20/2015   12:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I to know not, it to see more? illusion?



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Posted 11/21/2015   3:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
who can help me. from stamp front are to points from grill?

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Posted 11/23/2015   3:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
the stamp to have viewable 15x18 points. thus #86 or #85A to submit



who there the superior Certificate... PSE or Philatelic Foundation?

yours reference für me, please.
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Posted 11/23/2015   4:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
E grill. Scott 86. The grill has 16 rows and a partial row at the bottom. A Z grill must have 18 complete horizontal rows. E grill part rows are horizontal while Z grill part rows would be vertical if resent.

Two 85A Z grill examples are known. Only one is in the hands of collectors.

Clark
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Posted 11/24/2015   12:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@Clark sorry I mine 14x18 full points... the right top point is 100% clear to show.
>A Z grill must have 18 complete horizontal rows
is not correct, show the https://www.siegelauctions.com/enc/census/85A.pdf

if #86 or #85A to determine the tester and the ruling is for me of no importance.

who there the superior Certificate... PSE or Philatelic Foundation?
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Edited by dittrich - 11/24/2015 02:54 am
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Posted 11/24/2015   07:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would send it to the Philatelic foundation.
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Posted 11/24/2015   09:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see 18 rows. Generally Z grills are well formed with complete rows and horizontal instead of vertical grill tips.

Because the 1 cent Z grill is already controversial, getting another one certified would be a long struggle. From what I see in the too many images presented above is unlikely to pass.

Still, sending it in to be expertized would provide some answers, since posters in this forum apparently cannot or should not provide.

Clark
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Edited by cfrphoto - 11/24/2015 09:35 am
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Posted 11/24/2015   10:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
since posters in this forum apparently cannot or should not provide.


We try our best.
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Posted 11/24/2015   4:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dittrich to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks @cfrphoto, stallzer
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