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10A Or 11A? And Which Plate?

 
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Posted 02/04/2016   9:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Achilles to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I picked this up over the weekend in Atlanta. I'm having trouble with the color on this one, and thus identifying it. Sometimes it looks OB to me, then again not. Anyone want to point me in the right direction by taking a stab at the plate? I thought it was 2E or L but I have been unable to plate it. Thanks,
Art

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Posted 02/04/2016   9:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Achilles,

At a glance, I'd say it's probably a #10A. It would help to have an 800 DPI or better scan.
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Posted 02/04/2016   9:45 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I like the Royalston cancel. I am pretty sure it is an OB, perhaps from Plate 0. Your image isn't large enough for plating.
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Posted 02/04/2016   10:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Achilles to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I always have problems with the posting of these images to the board--always to large of a file. Here it is again.


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Posted 02/04/2016   11:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, that's a #10A. Won't be able to plate it tonight.
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Posted 02/05/2016   10:47 am  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have spent a fair amount of time on this stamp but can't find a match I am comfortable with.
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Posted 02/05/2016   11:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Achilles to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's how I was feeling before I posted it. I feel better knowing that it's not just me...we'll figure it out. Thanks for the effort.
Art
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Posted 02/05/2016   4:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's a really nice impression. The shoulder and button area are all well defined.
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Posted 02/09/2016   11:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ttreen to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Try 88L5E. I can't call it for sure but somebody else may be able to confirm it. I don't have a copy of the position and the Chase photo doesn't quite match the right end of the top label.
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Posted 02/10/2016   12:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Achilles to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks T. I believe that's a match. Though an A relief is used on the late plate (B on the early plate and my stamp), the guide dot on the late plate for position 88L is a perfect match. I'll wait and see if someone else agrees before filling the space.
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The slight bend to the inside on the upper portion of the right side frame lines seem to match as well. Though only 8% complete, there's a pic of 88L5e on the Ruecker site--doesn't show the guide dot as it's trimmed off.
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Posted 02/10/2016   9:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Art,

88L5e doesn't pass the squash test (unless your stamp is warped on the right side). Here's a vertically compressed (squashed) image of the stamp overlayed on 88L5e from the Chase print. The right frame lines don't match up. I squashed Steve Ruecker's image, and it does match 88L5e.

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Posted 02/10/2016   9:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ttreen to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp IS "warped on the right side". Look at the tesselated work where the RIL touches it. It bends with the paper.

The part that bothered me was the recut line at the top of the top label. On the stamp it extends a bit beyond the label towards the URDB and that doesn't show on the Chase photo.

I checked it against all the B reliefs of the OB plates but I didn't check the "red" plates.
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Posted 02/10/2016   11:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK. I can see 88L5e if the right side is warped. I took a closer look at the top frame line, which is curvy, and a good match for 88L5e. It would be good to confirm this one in person.
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