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Posted 06/05/2016   2:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add paul5043 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Just going by this scan, how would you describe the condition of this stamp? (There is a hinge on back)

Thanks.

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Posted 06/05/2016   3:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To me it would be a space filler - the perforations seem to leave a lot to be desired. Also something going on in the bottom left corner.

Peter
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Posted 06/05/2016   3:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add paul5043 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK. Thanks, Peter.
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Posted 06/05/2016   5:55 pm  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It has F-VF centering, lightly soiled, a crease at upper left corner, perforation thin at upper right, scuff at lower left corner, some short perforations, BUT a beautiful light red cross-roads fancy cancel. It has faults, but I wouldn't call it a space filler.
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Posted 06/05/2016   6:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kollectorkurt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Spacefiller" is a horrible term and I would gladly ban it from philatelic parlance.

This stamp is solidly Very Fine Condition, a term with well defined expectations. It most definitely has Faults - perf issues on all sides, a scuff/tear spot at LL, what appears to be a thin at top and it could use a gentle bath!

I would add this to my personal collection in a heartbeat, lacking a red crossroads of this type on the 12c Bamknote.

I would add this to my great-grandfather's collection even faster. He was not a wealthy man, and this fits exactly into the "faulty" condition he collected. In some of the 19th-C series, my VF+ collection is less complete than what has become my "family legacy" collection! I continue to add to this collection, and in the traditional condition. Have dealers looked at me funny when asking for this material? Not after I explain what I am doing and why.

Bottom line. This is nowhere near a full SCV stamp. I would be looking to pay no more than 15% SCV. Anyone who tells you that this has no value is wrong.

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Posted 06/05/2016   9:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is that a New York Foreign Mail cancel? Kirke, in the May 2016 Chronicle of the US Philatelics Classic Society, provides a new categorization of the NYFM cancels but shows this negative cross used in 1863, which is too early for Scott 151 (1870).
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Posted 06/05/2016   9:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly NY Foreign Mail.
Check page 3 of this pdf on the subject. Dated 1870

http://www.rfrajola.com/nk3/NK3.pdf
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Posted 06/06/2016   02:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bill Weiss NYFM Handbook
http://www.stampsmarter.com/NYFM_landing.html br /
Page 8
Tr-C1/F9,9a,9b
Cvrs-49

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Posted 06/06/2016   07:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kollectorkurt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, this is NYFM. It will take time for collectors to integrate Nick Kirke's new approach towards these cancels. This type of basic "fancy" is going to have a much longer service period than previously thought. Simple to maintain. Simple to reproduce. Why wouldn't it be around for a decade?
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Posted 06/06/2016   2:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add paul5043 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all for your replies. Much appreciated.
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