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Pink? Vermillon? 1894 1c Postage Due "Paper Color" Is Completely Through The Entire Stamp?

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Posted 02/26/2017   7:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add edw_kim to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Pink? Vermillon? 1894 1c Postage Due "Paper Color" is completely through the entire stamp? Why is the paper pink or vermillon completely through the entire stamp? any suggestions will help?



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Posted 02/26/2017   7:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks to me like the stamp was soaked off an anvelope that was red and stained the stamps badly!


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Posted 02/26/2017   7:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These postage dues did not use color-fast ink... so they become a mess when soaked, especially in warm water.
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Posted 02/26/2017   7:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add edw_kim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
peter yes that is possible.what else? any other ideas?

i tested and no watermark PERF 12 maybe a scott #J29.?
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Posted 02/26/2017   7:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
chasa's answer is correct.
Red envelopes were not at all common in that era, so not the cause in this case.
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Posted 02/26/2017   7:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add edw_kim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i agree with john becker that someting other than red envolop caused the stamps orientation. also could be a sc # J31
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Posted 02/27/2017   6:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jim6092252 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I get alot of them like this so I think its bad ink in the stamps maybe the whole thing got wet back when but I have seen at least 100 like this.
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Posted 02/28/2017   4:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add edw_kim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
2-clicks mentions that many US Postage Due stamps have been "Over Inked"
.They would be considerd errors.My subject stamp maybe of that catagory.
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Posted 02/28/2017   4:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Red and pink envelopes were not all that uncommon in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
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Posted 03/08/2017   6:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add matttodd1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This set of postage dues is notorious for this. If you do try to soak one, beware.

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I do not think your stamp is the vermilion shade. This scan is of a claret, a vermilion, and a deep claret. It is difficult to see the differences in the scan, but they are there. If you have access to a UV place your "vermilion" along side a known claret or deep claret. They will fluoresce differently. The paper of your stamp is discolored from moisture and not natural. The colors of these postage dues are unstable and bleed easily when wet.
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today (may 13,2017) finally I got a perf test on the subject stamp I posted in march 2017,and it tested perf 12 all the way around.and also it was watermarked ,and absolutely "no watermark" whatsoever..leaving the only issue perf 12,no watermark,as 1894 scott # J29..all others were ruled out.making this stamp very unique.paper color undoubtedly vermil..
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Posted 05/14/2017   1:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Why would you rule out a J32?
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I thought this is what a vermillion color is suppose to look like with a perforated 12 in used condition. J29.
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Posted 05/14/2017   2:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wtcrowe post shows a vermilion, obviously colors are tricky depending on our computers and displays but you can generally take what he posts to the bank. wtcrowe is one of several recognized expertisers who are willing to share their opinions at no charge to others in our community.
wtcrowe post is great since it shows the relative difference between clarets and a vermilion.
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Posted 05/14/2017   2:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How would anyone know? Trying to identify shades of color from posted images is almost impossible. I'm looking at it on an IPad while someone else is looking at it on a $500 GPU with software adjusted settings. Then bring in a scanner or cell phone image and it complicates it more. The only way to positively identify correct shades is to examine it side by side with as many known items as you can. Lioness, if you look at your image and the image wtcrow posted they are night and day difference and compared to that scan yours looks faded, or it could be the scanner.....
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