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Revenue With Color Paper And Some Scissor-Art

 
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Posted 03/01/2017   05:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stamperix to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
hello,

so I will start to show some of the stamps I found in my duplicates album. Here some interesting stamps, I hope you enjoy looking, and perhaps you have some hints for me. I made some photos, I can also make scans in the future.

- the two stamps cut by scissors: I didn't find imperforate versions of these stamps in Scott, so I guess someone just wanted them to look better? Is there any value left? And which Scott No. would the 5c be? The brown is in reality just brown not a red-brown.

- the red cancellation on the 1c banknote: what does the word mean?

- and especially: the revenue stamp has a colored paper, I didn't find this one in my Scott Specialized, which No. would it be? The paper is like a blue, not really green (I made a comparison with another revenue stamp which has really green paper)

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Posted 03/01/2017   07:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The revenue stamp has lived a hard life either in the sun or chemically, so the paper faded somewhat.
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Posted 03/01/2017   10:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wtcrowe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your revenue stamp is a Scott RB13 on a typical paper.
You banknote stamp has a partial strike of PAID ALL and shows the letters "D ALL" this marking is an exchange mark found on trans-atlantic mails.
The five cent stamp appears to be a type I and could be what is left of a Scott 29 if it is truly brown.
The one cent stamp is a Scott 63 with all perforations trimmed away.
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Posted 03/01/2017   10:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is amazing what you can do with a pair of scissors in just a few seconds.
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Posted 03/01/2017   12:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bill Crowe - nice to see you here!
I agree that the 5c stamp very likely is a Scott 29.
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Posted 03/01/2017   1:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add srailkb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, from the color and impression, I would have guessed the 5c was a trimmed up brick red (i.e. Scott 27).
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Posted 03/01/2017   1:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello everybody and thank you for your helpful answers.

About the 5c: I think though it could be yellow-brown, I just thought that the photo was a bit too much in this direction, it's a bit more darker yellow-brown. But perhaps I will also make a scan.

About the 3c revenue: the RB13 is a 2c in my Scott, so did you mean perhaps the RB18? And about the color there: when I saw the stamp the first time in daylight, I just saw a completely blue stamp. Again also here, the photo does (like always) not really show it. Also will make a scan :)... I just wonder, if the color was changed, how completely and consistent it is across the stamp.
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Posted 03/01/2017   3:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wtcrowe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the Scott US Specialized RB13 is 3c orange in the design style RB2a and RB18 is a 6c violet in the same design style.
Yes, the scan of the 5c looks somewhat like a Scott 27 (brick red), but I opted to believe that the owner of the stamp could see the color of the stamp better than I can in a scan. In my experience scan colors can not be trusted as the quality varies with the machine used and that I have seen few or no scans that were 100% accurate.
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Posted 03/01/2017   4:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for my color confusion. I just wanted to add to my photo that it's not 100% the color. I looked now at the comparison chart of Swedish Tiger and there the color of my stamp is #27 or #28b, the others don't really match. But anyway: would you send this stamp in this condition to certification, I guess not :) ?

About Revenue: There seems to be an error in my book then. In my Scott US Specialized 2013 it says RB13 is "R2 2c Proprietary Blue", and RB18 is "R3 3c Proprietary Green". So RB13 would be correct, I guess. Are there other Scott errors known or a link to some errata?
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Posted 03/03/2017   04:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello,

and sorry again, I was on the wrong page in my Scott (R13 instead of RB13). I understood now.

I made two photos and only want to know, if there are any 3c revenue or property stamps known with blue paper?

It's not a blue like the sky, it's certainly a greenish blue, but more that than a bluish green. But if you say that it's just not possible, I have learned that, then it's really some other kind of color change.





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Posted 03/03/2017   10:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi. Regarding sending the 5-cent stamp in for certification, I'd have to question first whether that's even worth doing. It is so damaged, that it isn't going to have much, if really any resale value regardless of what it is declared to be. That same comment goes for many of these stamps - when they are so damaged, that frequently knocks as much as 90% of the value off right away. And when so much of the designs are cut away, that, at least to me, makes it almost unsaleable outside of a large group lot.
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Posted 03/04/2017   10:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Certification is probably most often associated with resale value, and I suspect that the fees abet this. However, for the specialist it is nice to have certified reference examples of rare color shades even if the stamp (portion) is all but unsaleable. The PF has created a special certificate rate for stamps of substandard grade, and that should make it easier to do reference studies. Certification is not infallible, but it does represent informed opinion after rigorous examination.

If it serves a purpose for you to have the color certified, then I say do yourself and the next generation of specialists a favor and have it done. It's a hobby, do what it takes.
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Posted 03/06/2017   03:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thank you essayk, I think I will perhaps put in into the letter if I once will send any other stamps for certification, depending on the cost.

about the paper color of my revenue stamp I conclude that it's not a blue version of this stamp existing as nobody said so here. Then it must be any other chemical or sun color change.

So thanks everybody for helping with my stamps and my questions.
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