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Overrun Countries.....reverse Printing

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Posted 10/13/2009   9:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add nr-notrare to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello everyone.....


Just thought you might like to see a sample of the reverse printing described in Scott for the Overrun Countries.


Top stamp is the common print......bottom reverse print.



Shading on top of the stripe.


Shading under the stripe.
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Posted 10/13/2009   10:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very nicely scanned, Tom!!

The reverse printing on the Korea issue is the hardest to identify.

Congratulations and well-done!

k
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Posted 10/13/2009   10:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nr-notrare to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Kim......

Thanks.......but I use photos, not scans..........haven't seen a scanner yet that can compete with a camera for really close work..
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Posted 10/13/2009   11:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed! A good camera captures more than a scanner can. Unfortunately, I have neither a good camera nor a good scanner nor good software. I do wish I had my Macintosh back instead of being stuck on the PC now.

Guess that's what happens when you spend too much money on stamps.

k
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Edited by khj - 10/13/2009 11:16 pm
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Posted 10/14/2009   02:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spock1k to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
if youa re feeling bad K I can help you spend even more money on stamps :)
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Posted 10/14/2009   06:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK, I'll bite. What is reverse printing?
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Posted 10/14/2009   07:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spock1k to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
printing on the gummed side?
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Posted 10/14/2009   09:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nr-notrare to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rohumpy.....


Reverse printing as described in Scott is changing the order of printing......flag/shading....shading/flag.

Seems to me that it could be described more accurately as......reverse order of printing colors.....but that would take up too much room in the listings so reverse printing was probably used to save space.

I wonder if other stamps from that time period from the same presses were also printed in reverse order ?

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Posted 10/14/2009   11:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spock1k to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
got it thanks
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Posted 10/14/2009   12:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doodles69ca to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nr-notrare, I am so glad that you said you used a cammera. It got me to try and see if my camera will do good close ups of stamps. And yes it does. So I think I will be using it more often as well.

I had read about reverse printing, but I never knew what it was. Thanks for sharing. I have learned so much in the last few weeks since joining this sight. It's great.
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Posted 10/14/2009   1:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nr-notrare to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Doodles......


Nice to know that at least some of what we post here actually helps.

My only camera is a Nikon 4300 cool-pix digital, not the best for scenery or wildlife shots but for close-up it works well......But, I have been able to push the limits of it's capabilities by attaching it to my telescopes and getting some very decent wildlife shots and some fantastic shots of the moon and I've actually been able to locate Jupiter along with it's 4 largest moons, not a great photo, but I was excited just to actually locate it. Also, by creating my own homemade lenses from broken binoculars I'm able to get some incredible close-up shots of stamp detail and paper structure. Also, by attaching it to my microscope I've been able to get photos of things as small as pollen. I've been working on a photo science book for kids that is basically a very close look at everyday common items like paper, pollen and common table salt.

A few samples......if anyone would like to see more I could send larger pictures through email.








from my Penny Black.




Sunflower pollen.



Salt.


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Posted 10/14/2009   1:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I wonder if other stamps from that time period from the same presses were also printed in reverse order ?

The other stamps of this time period were either monocolor or bicolor. This issue was special because it was 4-color, and the printer did not divulge much of the printing process. As a result, there are numerous printing variations and printing flaws for this series. Although there was a procedure for the subsequent printing sequence, obviously the printer was not very rigorous in following that sequence.

Ironically, on the Greece stamp that Tom showed, the reverse printing (pale blue stripes over pale blue shading) is actually the common printing, whereas the correct printing sequence (pale blue shading over the pale blue stripes) is actually the less common! This is only true for this stamp in that series. In the other stamps, the reverse printing is less common.
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Posted 10/14/2009   3:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sfgoda to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Tom,

What you post always helps. You have come up with some very original methods to use with your camera. Who would have thought of that??



Butch
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Posted 10/14/2009   7:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add David Giles to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tom:

Thank-you!

I never really understood the reverse printing until now.

David
(...always learning)
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Posted 10/15/2009   05:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. It is amazing what you learn here.

I wonder on the modern printings by multiple printers if something similar might not be possible. Or all stamps now printed in one run through the presses no matter how many colors are involved?
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Posted 10/15/2009   11:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spock1k to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yes at least the indian ones are. otherwise we would be crying a lot more at least here we have just gone to the wet offset style of printing
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