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Posted 08/03/2010   7:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add cdnum to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi,

Do you know if an error like that is interesting or not? This exemple is not on the most beautiful stamp but there is a doubling on letters.

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Posted 08/03/2010   9:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some people collect these errors.

I forget what that type of one is called exactly.

I like the ones with the design of the stamp shifted out of place as the perforations had been seemingly punched out in the wrong place, called misperfs.
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Posted 08/03/2010   9:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add quigngt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The doubling of letters or design is known as a double transfer. Since I am not an expert in this area I cannot say for sure that is what you have. But at least it is a possibility.
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Posted 08/03/2010   9:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I also meant to say that these 'error' stamps are not shown in your regular catalogues like Scott because they are not constant, that is they do not happen on every sheet in a certain place.

There are catalogues for these errors but sometimes the trick is finding the right buyer who really wants it.

The more visible the error, like a part of the design that did not get printed because of a missing colour, the more expensive, as more people want it.
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Posted 08/04/2010   07:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cdnum to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

Thank you... your comments help me to understand this World :)

I have another one with maybe a print error... but i'm not sure. Maybe it is an obliteration...

eyebrow seem to be in 3D (upper than normal)

Thank you!

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Edited by cdnum - 08/04/2010 07:15 am
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Posted 08/04/2010   07:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
naw, it's the cancel...
I get an interesting effect when looking at some stamps through my magnifier.
I can see the stamp under the cancel on some of them, it's almost like a 2d effect. Like putting a sheet of paper on one side of glass then using a marker on the other.. you can see between the two to get a better view of what is marked out.
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Posted 08/04/2010   07:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This one doesn't seem to be beyond normal to me.

It could be just the obliteration that has caused the shift in our perception by a little bit. The human mind sees what it wants to see sometimes.

The best way is to get another one like this and compare them one to the other. One without a big cancel that has seemed to have got wet and run somehow? Possible exposure to some chemical?
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Posted 08/04/2010   09:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add djd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
just sent this to our resident expert DBGiles on this issue.
David
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Posted 08/04/2010   11:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Regarding the first Americana stamp, the 13c eagle/shield...

This is neither a double transfer nor an error, but a printing freak known as ghost tagging. It occurs on overall tagged stamps of the 1960s-1980s.

You have a good eye. But unless it is more significant or happens with a plate number selvage, it is usually considered a printing defect.

There is a fine line between a printing freak with a premium value, and a poorly printed stamp.
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Edited by khj - 08/04/2010 11:30 am
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Posted 08/04/2010   11:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I can see the stamp under the cancel on some of them, it's almost like a 2d effect.

The 5c Washington was printed by a intaglio press. Which means the ink is "raised" with respect to the paper surface. When you get a very good printing, then yes, any ink flow (i.e., heavy cancel) over the printed areas of the stamp might have a slight 3-D effect.

You have a good example, and a good eye!
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Posted 08/04/2010   11:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cdnum to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

Add a picture with a zoom... maybe you will see the 3D effect. Plus, add back picture. I don't see the same effect on another one.



Thank you for your comment.



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Edited by cdnum - 08/04/2010 11:53 am
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Posted 08/05/2010   07:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cdnum to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

I have another one with some lines. Letters have some problem too. Each letter seem to be indent like the stamp :)

It is a beautiful stamp too.

Thank you!

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Edited by cdnum - 08/05/2010 07:37 am
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Posted 08/05/2010   08:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add abohart to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Those lines look to be scrapes from mail handling equipment, at least from here...
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Posted 08/05/2010   10:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The lines are not straight and vary in thickness -- Abohart is likely correct and it is damage caused by the mail handling equipment, not wiping smears.


Quote:
Each letter seem to be indent like the stamp

Not sure what you mean by that.
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Posted 08/05/2010   12:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cdnum to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi khj,

Letters shape (outline letters) "Black Heritage USA 15C" are not regular. Maybe it is normal but i'm not sure. Look like perforation on a stamp.

Thank you!
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Posted 08/05/2010   12:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That stamp was printed by photogravure (i.e., not typography nor lithography). So the entire printing composed of a fine dot matrix screen, not lines and solids. The result is that sometimes you see jagged borders in lettering when magnified. Same thing happens to your computer screen if you have magnifying software.

If you look at the people in the blow-up part of your pic and click on your pic to enlarge to full size, you can see parts of the dot screen.
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