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I appears Minkus worldwide supplements back as far as 1958 are for both the Supreme and Master as per attached image from the 1958 supplement.  |
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| Edited by dutchman1948 - 08/15/2016 4:19 pm |
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And it appears the 1957 does as well from this info from Amos.
Minkus Global Album Pages: 1957 Supplement (220 Pages on 110 Sheets). These pages supplement the Minkus Supreme Global, Master Global, Comprehensive and New World Wide Stamp albums. Contains spaces for stamps released thru 1957. Only the U.S. stamps are identified by Minkus Catalogue Numbers. All other stamp spaces contain photos only. - |
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It appears that since the 1956 Minkus albums were printed in sets, all the future supplements fit both Master and Supreme albums. |
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Quote: It appears that since the 1956 Minkus albums were printed in sets, all the future supplements fit both Master and Supreme albums. Dutchman1948- That is very early on, and if so, would suggest that building the Supreme or Master through supplements would end up with identical coverage for the Supreme or Master after 1957. Interesting indeed! But albums still seem to differ in coverage I've found. My new 1953-1963 "thick" Minkus "Supreme" supplement pages from Amos (purchased last year) have, for Aden 1953-59.... (Scott numbers) 47, 48,52,53,54, 49 ,50,51,55 or 55A, 56,57 or 57A,58 or 58A,59 or 60, 61 or 61A 62,64,63, (Note: This is the same coverage that is in my '61 Master Global.) While my friend's Supreme through 1956 has... More spaces and more comprehensive coverage for the 1953-56 period (24 spaces rather than 15 spaces)!
(Scott numbers) 1953-1956 48,47,48b, 49,49a,50,51,51a, 52,53,53b,54,54b,56, 57,57A,58,58A,59,60, 55,61 or 61A,55A, 62 What's going on here?  |
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| Edited by Jkjblue - 08/16/2016 12:22 am |
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I think Amos has removed stuff from their pages that they are reprinting. If you compare the Master pages say from 1957 and the Supreme pages from the same year they should be the same. The supreme albums' printed in 1966 in 3 parts I believe, is bringing large dollars on ebay, possibly because they are more complete than the new Amos pages. I will do some comparisons as I also have the new Minkus to 1963, a set of Masters to about 1965 and original Supremes from 1967 to 1979. I missed out on the first 3 volumes of the Supremes as they went for almost $200 each with no stamps. It would also be interesting to compare the new Amos Minkus pages with the Amos Internationals for say 1960 on. If any one has a original Minkus volume 3 from 1966 that would be even better |
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| Edited by dutchman1948 - 08/16/2016 1:20 pm |
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It would also be interesting to compare the pre 1953 Minkus reprints with the original Minkus pages to see if there are any differences |
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| Edited by dutchman1948 - 08/16/2016 1:22 pm |
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I have a 1974 info page and they were already omitting countries due to incomplete pages, not enough stamps, etc and they would update in later supplements.
I am not sure when Minkus actually started this practice and what Amos is basing their reprints on subsequent to 1953 or if they are copying from Master or Supreme pages. This could become very complicated and starting to wonder if I would have been better off buying the original pages than the new reprints.
The original 3 volumes from 1966 or 2 volumes from 1956 may have been a better buy even though the pages are thinner. Then all the individual supplements would fit in properly. |
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| Edited by dutchman1948 - 08/16/2016 1:36 pm |
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Amos Media Publishing is using the On Demand Printing process to print the Minkus Album pages. In order for them to re-print the Minkus Album pages, they take a digital scan of the original pages and printed them on white 80 pound text paper. Because the copy is taken from a digital scan, it can appear like a photo copy of the originals. When they decided to re-print the Minkus Supreme Albums pages, they took the original 1953 edition without the Minkus Catalog numbers. I have noticed that a few pages do have Minkus Catalog numbers; these pages would have come from a later edition. Thus, the reprints are a mixture of the older and newer editions combined. Amos is in the process of slowly bringing back the Minkus Regional Albums, which can be combined with the Supreme albums if you are wanting a more complete country offering. I appreciate Amos bringing the albums back in print. |
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I did some quick checking on Aden, Afghganistan, and Albania and the reprints from 1953 have pages missing that are in my Minkus Master, and the reprint has stamps that are not in my Master.
This is going to be like comparing apples and oranges. I don't have those Supreme pages to compare to either.
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| Edited by dutchman1948 - 08/16/2016 2:45 pm |
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Quote: I think Amos has removed stuff from their pages that they are reprinting. Quote: I did some quick checking on Aden, Afghganistan, and Albania an the reprints from 1953 have pages missing that are in my Minkus Master, and the reprint has stamps that are not in my Master.
This is going to be like comparing apples and oranges. I don't have those Supreme pages to compare to either.
Yes, this is going to get complicated.  dutchman1948 - I appreciate your checking into this. Besides the Amos thick paper reprint 1953-1963 supplement (which you also apparently have), I also have the Amos 1840-1952 thick paper reprint. It seems to me that this reprint is actually (in part) a 1954 vintage, as there are 1954 stamp spaces included. So apparently the coverage was better for the Supreme (1953-56 Supplements were more comprehensive), and supplement coverage for 1957 and later was the same for Master/Supreme? But now, when Amos reprints, the coverage is "dumbed-down" somewhat for this era? |
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I am starting to believe I should have gone to Steiner from Day 1, it would have been quicker and easier. I can get the pages printed and punched for 10˘ per page. No interleaving and different binders to worry about and still have incomplete coverage.
Right now I have 15 feet of 7 feet high bookshelves, and numerous other shelves with albums. This constant rethinking is starting to get to me and my pocket book and I am getting too old for it. |
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I just did some quick comparisons on the 1840 - 1953 Minkus reprints with my Master albums. Many pages are the same, some have been shifted around, but it does appear the Reprints have more stamp spaces than the master pages so I will assume they are based on the early supreme pages. |
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| Edited by dutchman1948 - 08/16/2016 3:51 pm |
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My '61 copyright Master has significantly less coverage for the 1840-1940 era for most countries, compared to the 1840-1952 Supreme thick page reprints. I would never recommend the Master for those that are interested in a WW album with good 1840-1940 coverage. But, if the Supreme does not have very good coverage for a country, it then provides the same as the Master coverage. So the Supreme is a mixture of better coverage and Master level coverage.  (And, apparently after 1957, the coverage is identical for the original supplements.) Overall, however, the Supreme does have better coverage than Big Blue. That is what makes it so intriguing.  |
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Check your US air mails and see if it is the same as mine.
The 53 to 63 reprint has no US air mails at all.
The 1840 to 1952 reprints has the airmails up to 1954
No airmails from 1954 to 1963. They may be in the 1964 to 1966 set who knows
My master has all the airmails to 1968
It does appear that Amos has messed around with the 1953 to 1963 pages so you have to continue with the reprints to get what is missing from the original Minkus pages.
Also, the holes punched in the reprints are huge, way bigger than they need to be. |
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jk - I have the Vintage Brown reproductions, the blues to 1990 and the Minkus to 1979(less 1977 for now)
I do my worldwide - browns 1st, blues 2nd, and Minkus 3rd and comparing as I go along. |
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