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Watermarks On New South Wales Stamps - Share Your Research.

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Posted 08/12/2020   05:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks fairdinkumstamps!

The stamp is perf. 13 and the cancel was only in use from 1863 to 1864 according to White. I have it on an 1864 cover.

In the flesh it's obvious the stamp isn't a Wmk SG 36 example.
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Posted 08/15/2020   05:39 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The cancellation is White B9d. See page 89 of his book.


B9e was also in use in 1864 - as seen on this joined strip of 3 Two Pence De La Rue - with very nice marginal lettering watermark!





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Posted 08/15/2020   06:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice fairdinkumstamps!
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Posted 12/06/2020   9:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PlusStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Need assistance identifying this watermark.


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Posted 12/06/2020   10:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PlusStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a scan of the watermark while wet.

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Posted 12/07/2020   12:07 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
PlusStamps,

The watermark is double-lined 2.

These double-lined numerals are shown below. The numerals would normally be reversed as seen from the back of the stamps. The second image shows the normal orientation form the back of the stamp, yours being the second last one (i.e. 2).

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Posted 12/07/2020   12:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Postmark : BARABA (BARRABA after 1856) New South Wales (Type 2R Rays unknown)
If Baraba (530Km from GPO) The Pmk 2R23

Notable resident: Andrew Farriss- country music singer and member and songwriter in INXS
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Posted 12/07/2020   07:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PlusStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks very much!
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Posted 12/14/2020   4:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes a reasonably early strike of Barraba.

Andrew Farriss is singing country music now?
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Is anyone able to advise me on the reality of this watermark for NSW 8d diadem



It appears to be large S W (from NSW?). Is it for reeal

Thanks

Michael
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Posted 01/25/2021   06:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Certainly, edge of the dandy roll,or mould

If you had read this thread from the beginning........
http://goscf.com/t/67868&whichpage=3#627018 br /

This even better to explain.
http://goscf.com/t/67868&whichpage=5#678528 br /
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Thanks Mate - I looked up what a dandy roll is, so I'm learning - can one tell what the actual watermark is from this info on the dandy roll?
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Posted 01/25/2021   07:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bobby or Fairdinkum stamps are the specialists.
I thought I had an image of the wmk sheet,
alas I cannot find it.

They may be able to plate your example.

I am ignorant of the paper used for the diadems, it is a specialist's domain.
They should respond in due course.

Search dandy roll in this forum, if you are interested in the making of later watermarks.
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Posted 01/25/2021   07:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
General Interest

British Dandy Roll
Images of the "bits" that give the watermark design can be seen (crowns)



NSW "Bits" 1850 that would be brazed onto the dandy roll, or mould screen.



Source: Museum of Applied Arts and sciences.
https://collection.maas.museum/object/81439
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Posted 01/25/2021   07:36 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Is anyone able to advise me on the reality of this watermark for NSW 8d diadem


Michael,

The watermark is the inverted edge of the lower margin of the sheet (so your stamp would be from the top of the printing plate).

The relevant part of the watermarked paper can be seen on page 3 of this thread.

Your stamp shows the letters W and S from NEW SOUTH
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