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Pencancel?, French Stamp

 
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Posted 12/26/2010   08:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Tomten to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello!

I found this weird looking stamp today. Is this a "normal" purple pencancel?



Or might it be a kid's drawing on a stamp? :)

Thanks for any information and help!
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Posted 12/26/2010   09:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add timbres667 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's a stamp destroyed by a purple marker. Sometime a marker is use to cancel a stamp but it's usually one marker line.
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Edited by timbres667 - 12/26/2010 09:22 am
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Posted 12/26/2010   10:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tomten to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well maybe there is some collector of pencancels :)
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Posted 12/26/2010   2:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Definately not a precancel.

This stamp was damaged, as stated earlier by another member in here, by some lazy postal clerk. I use that term because I received domestic mail today and the stamps were cancelled with a ball-point pen

If you have access to a Scott catalogue, then take a look at # 707-10. This is the type of precancel you will find on French stamps.

One site you might want to try is at

http://www.pssgb.org.uk/glossary.html#F

This one shows the types of French precancels known.

Hope this helps?

Chimo

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Posted 12/26/2010   3:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tomten to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Never said it was a precancel, I asked if it was a PEN-cancel :)

I don't have any Scott catalogue, yet. Thanks for the link though! It'll help me.
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Posted 12/26/2010   5:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry!

My eyes are bothering me today and I read it as precancel

Bujutsu
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Posted 12/26/2010   6:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add David King to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm puzzled as I don't think they had markers at the time these stamps were used (earlier part of last century). I've got some British Commonwealth stamps from the same period that look as if they were pen cancelled with Indian ink, but I've only seen this sort of marker cancel in stamps over the past 40 - 50 years.

Shame. as it is a lovely simple design of a sower, came in a wide variety of values and colours and different tweaks to the design over a long period.
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Posted 12/27/2010   11:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tomten to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have some thousand copies of this stamp and the other versions from France, they are beautiful, I was just puzzled by this purple cancel :)
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Posted 12/27/2010   3:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, there is nothing unusual about the pencel marking. Unfortunately, the stamp is worthless because of the actions of some postal clerks.

To this day, they still do this procedure on occasion and it is annoying to those of us who like to see stamps 'properly' cancelled, since all post office facilities have the equipment to do so.

At least in the days of the "Sower" stamps, they didn't have felt markers, I think

Some collectors study this particular set for plate varieties etc because different plates were used over the years and some were repaired as well.

My 2 cents worth anyway :)

Chimo

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Posted 12/27/2010   3:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tomten to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Okay I see. Well I won't throw it away anyway, fun to have :)
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Posted 12/27/2010   4:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add David King to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
. . . and we still haven't solved the mystery of the purple pen. Unless it's not a marker - but were there any inks used in the 1920's that were transparent?
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