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Transvaal Bob - Help ID?

 
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Posted 03/31/2011   1:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jhlovell to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have a 6d red Transvaal that I believe is BOB (I could be wrong) but I don't have my GB Scott catalog. Does anyone know a Scott ID for this and a near value. (The mortgage on the house is coming due). Thanks as always. - Jeff

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Posted 03/31/2011   1:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mhc99 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
jhlovell, the stamp is #164 and for mint it is valued at $2.
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Posted 03/31/2011   1:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don't have my catalog with me, but it is a Postage Due stamp.
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Posted 03/31/2011   1:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mhc99 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
jhlovell, I just noticed the following notation under # 164:
"Counterfeits of No. 164 are on the 6p dark red revenue stamp of 1898 and have a shiny green ink from the overprint. The false overprint is also found on other revenue denominations, though only the 6p rose was converted to postal use."

Now looking at your copy, it appears that it is possibly dark red because the copy in the Scott catalogue looks paler and is the rose color.
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Posted 03/31/2011   1:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is an interesting stamp, even though relatively common.

It was a revenue stamp that was converted to a regular postage stamp.

Counterfeits abound, even though not a rare stamp. I believe the Scott catalog should have a footnote explaining how to detect the counterfeit.
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Posted 03/31/2011   1:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
mhc99 beat me to it, and also had the complete citation!

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Posted 03/31/2011   1:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mhc99 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
khj, I have noticed often that members of SCF are fast answering questions and if you are somewhat slow in responding, someone will likely beat you to the answer. If you snooze you loose.
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Posted 03/31/2011   1:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all three of you for the information and the ink is ....... green
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Posted 03/31/2011   2:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The overprint is green for both genuine and counterfeit overprints. On the counterfeits, it is a "shiny" green. Also, the counterfeit overprints were made on the wrong revenue stamp. Genuine overprints were made on rose colored revenue stamp. Counterfeit overprints were made on same revenue stamp of dark red color variety.
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Posted 03/31/2011   3:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
oh, great colorblind me. Wait Checking .......looks too red, but will ask my wife when I get home.
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Edited by jhlovell - 03/31/2011 3:54 pm
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Posted 03/31/2011   5:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampStudy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A bit more info on this stamp :

Date of Issue : July 1895
Printing : Typo by Enschede & Sons
Watermark : None
Perf : 11.5
Panes of 60 (6 x 10)

Drew
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Posted 03/31/2011   10:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks Drew - jeff
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Can anyone improve on my information please.
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1886 Revenue is all I have.


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