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Thanks lithograving. When I first saw your name, here, I thought you were going to correct me on my explanation of the printing process used.  A dealer friend offered the lot to me sight-unseen a few weeks ago. At first I thought I had overpaid, not finding them listed that way in in Scott but only as complete booklet panes. But with the information PMGS is giving me from the Michel Catalog, maybe I didn't do too badly after all. |
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Yes I noticed those high catalogue values on many of them. They appear to be quite desirable by German collectors. I'm sure you got a good deal.  |
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Since the scans are becoming separated by posts and growing in number, lets identify this one as Page 8 -- the stamps are all used.  |
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OK, Larry. I got them all IDed. But before I post the results, care to take a guess at the estimated Michel catalog value of the last three sets posted (the Hindenburgs from the previous page, and the two posts from this page)?  |
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I wouldn't have a clue. But you make it sound like it could be pretty good. Sure hope it is! |
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Hindenburgs
Notes for all -- In its Markenheftchen Katalog, Michel lists vertical (S) and horizontal (W) pairs/trios, and tκte-bκche margin pairs (KZ), but not blocks. Therefore, for blocks I've given the prices for the individual single/pairs/trios. If there are multiples in a block [denoted (x2)], the prices are per single since that's how Michel lists them. It also gives prices for used and on cover, but not on piece. It also does not assign a specific premium for special cancels.
Photo 1
Row 1:
Mi S 136 -- 22
Mi S 138 -- 22
Mi S 128 -- 5
Mi S 130 -- 5
Mi S 152 -- 5
Mi S 161 -- 3.50
Mi S 159 -- 2
Mi S 171 -- 1
Row 2:
Mi S 129 -- 2.50
Mi S 127 -- 1
Mi S 119 -- 2
Mi S 121 -- 10
Mi S 201 (swastika wmk) -- 1.50 or Mi S 112 (waffle wmk) -- 60
Mi S 199 (swastika wmk) -- 1 or Mi S 110 (waffle wmk) -- 50
Mi S 115 -- 3
Mi S 117 -- 10
Row 3:
Mi S 151 (vert pair x2) -- 1.60 ea
Block of four from sheet EGB 2:
-- Horizontal pair (x2) -- Mi W 59 -- 1 ea
Block of four from sheet MHB 45 or pane HB 92:
-- Horizontal pairs Mi W 69 (3.50) and Mi W 70 (6)
-- Vertical singles Mi 515 (x2) (.50 ea) and pair Mi S 159 (2)
Block of four from sheet MHB 42 or pane HB 89:
-- Horizontal pair Mi W 68 (6) and singles Mi 519 (x2) (.50 ea)
-- Vertical pairs Mi S 155 (5) and Mi S 163 (2)
Row 4:
Mi S 187 -- 3
Mi W 95 -- 1
Mi W 94 -- 4
Photo 2
Row 1:
Mi W 65 -- 9
Mi W 77 -- 1.50
Mi W 77 -- 1.50
Row 2:
Mi KZ 25 -- 9
Mi KZ 26 -- 7
Row 3:
Mi S 127 -- 1
Mi S 175 -- 3.20
Mi S 133 -- 16
Mi S 131 -- 6
Mi S 195 -- 7.50
Mi S 143 -- 6
Mi S 155 -- 5
Row 4:
Mi S 139 -- 6
Portion of sheet MHB 42 or pane HB 89:
-- Horizontal pair Mi W 68 (6) and singles Mi 519 (x3) (.50 ea)
-- Vertical pairs Mi S 155 (5), Mi S 163 (2), and single Mi 519 (.50)
Mi EGS 3 -- 12
Mi W 66 -- 6
Mi W 84 -- 3
Row 5:
Mi W 73 -- 1.50
Mi W 78 -- 7.50
Mi W 76 -- 2.50
Photo 3
Row 1:
Mi S 135 -- 5
Mi S 137 -- 16
Mi S 215 -- 10
Mi S 141 -- 16
Mi S 140 -- 22
Mi S 132 -- 2
Portion of sheet MHB 49:
-- Horizontal singles Mi 516 (x2) (.50 ea), pair Mi W 81 (7.50), and singles Mi 516 (x2) (.50 ea)
-- Vertical pair Mi S 194 (6) and singles Mi 516 (x3) (.50 ea)
Row 2:
Mi W 59 -- 1
Mi W 59 -- 1
Mi W 60 -- 18
Mi W 70 -- 6
Row 3:
Mi W 64 -- 6
Mi W 79 -- 5
Mi W 75 -- 1.50
Mi W 81 -- 7.50
Row 4:
Mi W 67 -- 6
Mi W 63 -- 6
Mi KZ 23 -- 12
Row 5:
Mi S 147 vertical pair (x2) -- 1.60 ea
Mi S 149 -- 2.50
Mi 519 -- .50
Mi W 71 -- 1.50
Mi W 72 -- 2.50
Photo 4
Row 1:
Portion of sheet MHB 41:
-- Vertical pairs (x4) -- Mi S 137 -- 16 ea
-- Michel lists the 1/margin/margin/8 horizontal strip, but not the with the additional 1 and 8 on each end -- Mi KZ 24 -- 9 ea
Portion of sheet MHB 45 or pane HB 92:
-- Horizontal pairs Mi W 69 (3.50) and Mi W 70 (6)
-- Vertical singles Mi 515 (x2) (.50 ea) and pair Mi S 159 (2)
Row 2:
Mi KZ 26 -- 7
Portion of sheet MHB 46 or pane HB 93:
-- Horizontal pair Mi W 78 (7.50) and singles Mi 512 (x2) (.50 ea)
-- Vertical pairs Mi S 167 (7.50) and Mi S 171 (1)
Row 3:
Portion of sheet MHB 48:
-- Horizontal -- Mi KZ 32 (x2) -- 12 ea
-- Vertical -- Mi S 189 (x2) -- 7.50 ea
Mi W 80 -- 5
Photo 5
Row 1:
Portion of sheet MHB 42:
-- Horizontal -- Mi KZ 28 (x2) -- 7 ea
-- Vertical -- Mi S 165 -- 3.50
Row 2:
Mi S 154 -- 5
Portion of sheet MHB 42 or pane HB 89:
-- Horizontal singles Mi 514 (x2) (.50 ea) and Mi 519 (x2) (.50 ea)
-- Vertical -- Mi S 163 (x2) -- 2 ea
If my math's right, that's about US$750 of catalog value, without accounting for any premium for blocks larger than Michel lists, and any additional value for the particular cancels. |
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Page 8
Row 1:
Mi W 41 -- 5
Mi W 49 -- 40
Mi W 47 -- 25
Row 2:
Mi W 50 -- 80
Mi SK 19 -- 120
Row 3:
Mi W 55 -- 30
Mi W 55 -- 30
Mi W 22 -- 120
Row 4:
Block from sheet MHB 71 or pane HB 121:
-- Horizontal pair Mi W 155 (25) and singles Mi 785 (x2) (.40 ea)
-- Vertical pair Mi S 286 (25) and singles Mi 785 (x2) (.40 ea)
Mi S 292 -- 5
Mi W 149 -- 4
There are two shades of the 7 1/2 Pf (orange, red-orange) -- Mi S 13 a (orange) (35) and Mi S 13 b (red-orange) (12)
Mi W 5 ab -- 70
Row 5:
Mi S 48 -- 80
Mi S 46 -- 18
Mi S 42 -- 8
Mi K 10 (the 5/5 pair) -- 40
Mi W 26 (the X/4 pair) -- 30
Mi W 27.1 (the X/5 pair) -- 15
Mi W 30.1 (the X/15 pair) -- 15
Mi Mi S 102 -- 15
That's about US$1,100 of catalog value, again not accounting for any premium for the one block larger than Michel lists, and any additional value for the particular cancels. |
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Third set:
Photo 1
Row 1:
Mi KZ 1 -- 12
Mi KZ 2.1 -- 12
Row 2:
Mi KZ 4.2.2 -- 36
Mi RL 1.9 -- 24
Row 3:
Mi K 1 -- 4
Mi K 4 -- 6
Mi KZ 7 -- 18
Mi S 22 -- 10
Row 4:
Only listed with additional margin or 10 Pf to left of current margin (margin/margin/10) or (10/margin/10) -- 24/12
Mi W 34 -- 70
Row 5:
Block from sheet MHB 1 or MHB 2 :
-- Horizontal pairs (x3) -- Mi K 3 -- 4
Mi S 147 -- 1.60
Mi S 159 -- 2
Mi W 59 -- 1
Row 6:
Mi EGS 2 -- 4.50
Mi W 98 -- 4
Photo 2
Row 1:
Mi EGS 1 -- 4
Mi W 94 -- 3
Row 2:
Mi W 74 -- 2
Rows 3-4:
Mi S 200 (swastika wmk) -- 3 or Mi S 111 (waffle wmk) -- 120
Block from sheet MHB 48:
-- Horizontal pair Mi W 81 (7.50), singles Mi 516 (x2) (.50 ea), and pair Mi W 81 (7.50)
-- Vertical pair Mi S 184 (24) and singles Mi 516 (x3) (.50 ea)
Mi S 193 -- 4
Mi W 71 (the 1/5 pair) -- 1
Mi W 77 (the 3/1 pair) -- 1
Mi S 249 -- 2.50
Row 5:
Mi W 50 -- 80
Photo 3
Row 1:
Block from sheet MHB 68 or pane HB 116:
-- Horizontal singles Mi 756 (x2) (1.50 ea) and pair Mi W 148 (15)
-- Vertical pairs Mi S 262 (10) and Mi S 266 (2.50)
Mi S 249 -- 2.50
Mi K 34 -- 9
Row 2:
Mi W 103 -- 9
That's about US$440 of catalog value, again not accounting for any premium for the blocks larger than Michel lists. |
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Wow, that's outstanding. Thank you!
When they first arrived and I saw that Scott did not list them other than as complete booklet panes, I figured I'd just have to eat my mistake and see if I could get my money out of them, and even that didn't look good. Now they are looking a 'whole lot' better. I'll have to check those watermarks.
Is there a difference in value given for mint hinged and mint never hinged? I still have some of the latter to scan. Also, I remembered another group of these that came in a mixed lot a few years ago and have dug them up. Will have to see if there are any among them that differ from what is already here. |
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There is a difference in cat value for MH v. MNH. If there are an more you need info on, just let me know. |
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Out of curiosity, what does all the old style imperative German script mean?
Beautiful collection!
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