Austria Revenue Issues

I will have to proclaim my complete ignorance about these issues. However, in terms of design and eye appeal, they have to rank up there among the nicest designs I have seen.

I would appreciate any information or links to catalogue sites that you may be able to pass along.














I am also showing a few other Cinderella issues which were in with this lot. Again, I cannot help with any information but the design are interesting. I especially admire the 1937 image with the map of Austria. That would look magnificent in Poster size!

The first 3 stamps appear to be Hungarian.
Some of the others have appeared in other threads here.

If the top two are Hungarian (I assume that the currency unit would be Fl = Florins? and the lower one Kr = Kronen?) do they then date from after the dissolution of the Austro-Hungarian Emprie following WWI?

I'd go along with Hungary for the third, and maybe the first two, as well. If the year is 1859 on the second, that predates any Hungary fiscals listed in Forbin (the first of which is 1868).

Forbin shows no more than one image for each large series under Hungary, often noting that designs vary by value. So, it's of limited help.

The "kr" is krajczar, or kreuzer, which were replaced in or around 1900, so your third stamp, at least, would seem to be 19th century.

The first 5 are all Austro-Hungarian Empire issues. The first would be prior to 1915 based on the coat of arms. The 3rd is a Hungarian issue again based on the coat of arms and that it has the Crown of St. Stephen of Hungary, instead of the Imperial Austrian Crown of the Habsburgs.

Yes, the fourth and fifth are listed in Forbin under Austria, as #181 (1879 numeral) and #151 (1877 emperor).

There's some more information here:

http://www.stamparena.com/revenues/hungarian.php

Nice little site...thanks for the heads-up.

C.

First two: Austrian Empire. First is issued in 1859 (at least the paper seems blueish to me), second issued in 1858. First issue of the Austrian revenues is 1854, similar to these two, but on the lower part of this issue you`ll find `C.M.` - (Conversations Münze).
Third: Austro-Hungarian Empire, issued in Hungary. (In 1848 hungarians revolted against the Habsburg house, with the help of Russia the revolution was suppressed. But in 1867 Austria reconciled with Hungary. In 1867 the empire became officially Austro- Hungarian empire, a dualist empire- Austria and the Hungarian Kingdom, separate Hungarian parliament, coat of arms etc. and stamps!- that`s why in Forbin or anywhere else under Hungary we can`t find any stamp (postal or revenue) prior to 1867. (in 1870, 3 years after the reconciliation the Hungarian State Printing House was founded- first Hungarian postage stamp 1871). Kreuzer=Krajczar (german-hungarian spelling). The third stamp is issued somewhere bw. 1868-1880. Here the perforations for each year:
-1868: 12
-1869: mixed, 9-11 (most often 10 1/2)
-1870: same
1873: 12 1/2 - 13 1/2
1876: 12 1/2 - 13 1/2
From 1880 the background colour of the Hungarian revenues changes from blueish green (as this one) to light brown-pink-carmine.

That is a very informative reference site and thank you. Also thank you for the detailed information on the perforations of the different issue dates.

Now they can at least be housed where they belong. I have always despaired of being competent to sort out the different watermarks associated with the early Hungary postal issues but colours and perfs I can usually handle.

Nice stamps backroads. The "leaf vein" pattern on the Austria revenue was discussed briefly here:

https://goscf.com/t/8379#8379

I am not a collector but have been given a collection and happen to have something similar

This one was postal used... not so usual, but also not so rare...