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Posted 08/11/2011   7:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add backroads to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
OK - I am truly being lazy but I have not been able to spot these particular issues in the Scott catalogue. They are legitimate in that they have all been cancelled.

Note that there is a rather interesting cancel on the fourth stamp shown. Passed by censor - Pakistan. What need was there for a censor of incoming mail from Dubai in 1965? Is there something historical that I am missing here?








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Posted 08/11/2011   7:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These stamps are actually not listed by Scott. There are a significant number of stamps from these "small" sheikdoms that are not listed by Scott, but can be found in Stanley Gibbons, Michel, and the older Minkus catalogs. They might be in the old Scott "For the Record" section, which Scott discontinued in the 1990s. I'll see if I can pull out an old Scott catalog later. In the "For the Record" section, Scott only gives a brief description of the stamp set topic, date of issue, and denominations. No catalog number nor value is assigned.

The censor mark is probably associated with the Indo-Pakistan War of 1965. I would say that stamp is a "keeper".
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Posted 08/11/2011   8:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK, in the old Scott "For the Record" section:


Quote:
1964
Educational Progress. Nov. 25. 5,10,15,20np; airmail, 30,40,50np,1r (8v). Souvenir sheet, 1r.
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Posted 08/11/2011   10:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add backroads to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks khj. If I didn't have books and bags and boxes all identified by Scott numbers, I would switch to a different system in a flash. The thought of cross referencing everything is quite intimidating though, even if it is frustrating to run across sets like this where the stamps are quite obviously postally used but still not accepted.

And yes, the Pakistan marking makes it a very good one to hang on to. I had forgotten that particular dispute had officially ramped up to war status for a while. Though the rationale of why the censorship was deemed necessary seems a little bit hazy.
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Posted 08/11/2011   11:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Though the rationale of why the censorship was deemed necessary seems a little bit hazy.

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Posted 08/11/2011   11:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So that you can still stick a catalog number to them, in the Stanley Gibbons catalog they are (from top to bottom)

Dubai #119, 121, 123, 124

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Others missing from Scott. (All listed in Michel)




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Posted 07/04/2017   09:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

For the record:
Steiner supplies 46 Pages of "Non Scott"

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Posted 04/22/2021   03:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unknown
Similar to Sc# Type AP3 C25 1964 Air
No Light Green colour, Unknown Opt
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Posted 04/22/2021   03:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
1964,Michel # 144B
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Posted 04/22/2021   03:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! very elan,
thanks Vayolene, thanks Michel.

For the record,
C25 C26 Varieties
Stamp Auction Network 2005

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Posted 09/15/2022   6:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thread Bumped, Dormant 1 year.

Dubai. Unlisted in Scott
Michel #321 1968 Mexico Olympiad. (Printed on Postmark)

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Posted 09/15/2022   6:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
An online catalog:
http://www.ohmygosh.on.ca/stamps/dubai/dubai.htm

OP's stamps are legit, but the ones described as "probably an essay" - no. Be aware that errors were made purposely and only sold through various intermediaries including well-known new issue dealers. This predated Clive Feigenbaum's shenanigans by a couple of years. There are also bogus items, even aerogrammes(!), that were only issued through controlled sources and never used postally.

See:
http://rhcourtney-collector.com/Catalog1.html
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Posted 09/15/2022   7:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And let us not forget Finbar Kenny's role in these stamps. Finbar was later convicted for a deal he struck with the Cook Islands, after revenue intended for a government pension fund ended up paying for the then prime minister's election campaign.
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Posted 09/15/2022   11:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you both.
2 great links
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