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Australia
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Posted 11/18/2011   12:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Minature Sheet with 5 singles and a Se-tenant pair.

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Israel
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Posted 11/18/2011   05:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice items everyone.
However,


Quote:
1990 A block of 4, nice cancellation, too


fifia,
A very nice block of 4. But all stamps are the same so not Se-tenant.
I like this unification issue very much, a winner.

The Belgian stamp is with a Tab, is not Tete-Beche

Keep 'em coming.

A few more offerings from the back of the bus !











Londonbus1
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Bedrock Of The Community
United States
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Posted 11/18/2011   07:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's one we forgot: Se-tenant vertically, but only on the top two stamps!



Other US vertical se-tenant sets:

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Posted 11/18/2011   09:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fifia to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Between these Se-Tenants and the Definitives I will be going crazyyyyyyyyyyyy!

Tks, Lb1

Ok. How about a nice Se-Tenant pair




..and this is? a tete a tete?



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United Kingdom
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Posted 11/18/2011   10:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fifia,
Your last item is an italian 2 part parcel stamp. Bolletta for the parcel and Ricevuta - receipt.
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Posted 11/18/2011   11:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fifia to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
AnthonyUK

thanks for the info. I had them in Jugoslavia!


From Russia



From Polen









They are Se-tenant pairs!



just found this when looking for $ 2500.--

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Edited by fifia - 11/18/2011 1:12 pm
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Posted 11/18/2011   2:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not my stamp, but found it when posting a link on the subject of Albert Einstein, and it fits the se-tenant category, too:

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Posted 11/18/2011   3:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The pair of parcel stamps is from San Marino. It says "R.S.Marino" (Republic of San Marino) vertically over the perforations.
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Israel
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Posted 11/18/2011   3:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
fifia, wt1

You have both shown examples of stamps with gutters [DDR,Poland] or Tab [Gibraltar], but surely these are not Se-Tenant ?
Doesn't the very meaning of the word refer to Stamps and not labels,Selvedge,Tabs or margins ??

Now I am confused

Londonbus1.....
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Posted 11/18/2011   3:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
fifia,

Youe West German item is a good example of a Tete-Beche Gutter Pair.

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Australia
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Posted 11/18/2011   6:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Australia's true Se-tenant are different stamps 'with value shown', so either stamp can be used as/for postage. I never imagined something simple could be so confusing to new collectors.

I dare not show the New Zealand Circular ones, for fear some will come down on me like a ton of bricks. ! .
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Posted 11/18/2011   6:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Doesn't the very meaning of the word refer to Stamps and not labels,Selvedge,Tabs or margins ??


I can't speak for the stamp issued by Gibraltar, but for the US and Canada, the issue was mentioned in the previously posted link from Linn's Stamp News (copied here for convenience). Once again, the information is subjective from country-to-country, I suppose, and some may or may not agree with this interpretation, but that's what I used as a basis for my posts:



But then again, Linn's Stamp News goes on to suggest that no self adhesive stamp may be se-tenant, as there are no perforations holding the stamps together (unless one wants to argue that the backing paper is sufficient to justify it):



So I guess what it comes down to is one must use their own judgment to define the term.
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Edited by wt1 - 11/18/2011 6:52 pm
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Posted 11/18/2011   6:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is taken from the Linn's Refresher on se-tenants:

Quote:
The labels can also be considered se-tenant in this case.

If the 30˘ stamp was removed from the pane with the French-language label still attached to it, the stamp could be described as a 30˘ stamp with se-tenant label.


The full article is found here:
http://www.linns.com/howto/refreshe...rcourse.aspx

Scott's editors consider a label to be se-tenant, too (at least in some cases). I'm thinking of some Russia/Soviet issues in the second half of the 20th century that the catalogue describes as se-tenant, though the neighbor is a label.
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Canada
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Posted 11/18/2011   7:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good research, thanks wt1 and Cjd.


Linns was a wealth of information when I took out a subscription
with them 50 years ago and it still has some very good
articles.

But I have to add that I haven't bought a copy for many many years.
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Posted 11/18/2011   7:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fifia to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Quote:
I dare not show the New Zealand Circular ones, for fear some will come down on me like a ton of bricks.



Finches, sorry that I am not one of the smartest ones.

Please do not worry about getting hit with bricks,




you may have to come with us on the bus.







Lb1, this is part of a gutter pair, the other half is missing.
Thanks for your patients.



Se-tenant block of four



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