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I Inherited Grandfather's World Stamp Collection, Help?

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Posted 05/12/2012   12:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott's catalogue or any stamp catalogue (mostly), read the front pages over. Check out the back pages also sometimes.

There can be problems looking stuff up. It's called catalog blindness by collectors. It's right in front of you but you can't see it for the life of you. Just ask on here. Start a new topic for the quickest answer.

Ask Phil's site's Glossary is another good one.
http://www.collectorsclubchicago.org/b25.htm

Ask Phil's (Philately) main page has lots of good links and explanations. I haven't read all of it myself. You can only take in so much at a time I think. Look under Reference Library for a link to the Glossary.
http://www.collectorsclubchicago.org/

Linn's Stamp News magazine's site has lots of archived articles too:
http://www.linns.com/
Oops, you need to be subscribed to them for some of the good stuff I think.

Be patient grasshopper. It's all good.
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Posted 05/12/2012   7:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tstraz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rocky,

It looks like you have a great start to an interesting collection. It looks like you've gotten some great advice from other forum members. I just joined today. I would add one bit of advice to what you have already gotten. Seek out a stamp club.

I found experts in every field when I joined my club, the West Suburban Stamp Club, www.thewssc.com

Check out the APS website, www.stamps.org they have a list of local clubs all over the country.

Good luck
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Posted 05/14/2012   09:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RockySC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the tips guys. I didn't have any time to get into this over the weekend what with Mother's Day and all but I'm still on it. I'm having a very hard time even figuring out how to look up one single stamp though. Then on top of that, even if one has little to no value apparently it can still be worth a bit depending on marks and errors. Talk about confusing, lol.

I am going to start scanning the pages of the album soon and put them here...

www.photobucket.com/rockyscstamps
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Edited by RockySC - 05/14/2012 09:39 am
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Posted 05/14/2012   12:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Marklin86 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They look like they were mounted in martlet mounts, I think your frandfather was a collector, cause my grandfather hes the same mounts
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Posted 05/14/2012   3:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RockySC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The original owner was certainly a collector, but I don't think my grandfather was. All handwritten writing in the book is in German.
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Posted 05/14/2012   4:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Marklin86 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your grandfather was he german or are you german? They didnt have those black mounts in germany around ww1 to ww2 I have germany albums from that era and some mint stamps in mounts the mounts are clear usually made if cellulose or somekinda clear plastic mount trust me I know
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Posted 05/14/2012   4:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RockySC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No, he wasn't German and neither am I. He found the collection while in Germany during the war, and brought it back to him. All of the writing in the album is in German, and the name of who I can only imagine was the original owner is in the album in various places. That's all I know for sure. I'll post the scans of the album soon. Maybe that will help clear everything up.
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Posted 05/14/2012   4:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Marklin86 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Im just noticing from the mounts thats all im sirry if I offended you, I didnt mean to, I just notice that my grandfather used the same mounts in his album and my great grandfather had different ones in his, they are both german. Just making an observation.
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Posted 05/14/2012   4:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RockySC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No, no offense taken whatsoever, you guys know way more about any single bit of this than I do. I take all that you say to heart and learn from it. All I can do is report what I know. After that, I'm clueless, lol.
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Posted 05/14/2012   7:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Marklin86 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
haha not a problem
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Posted 05/15/2012   9:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RockySC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, I haven't gotten around to scanning any of the album pages, but I did pull a few from the loose ones that I'm sorting and decided to scan them and post them here. Can any of you tell me about any of these? The marks, general thoughts, etc...







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Posted 05/15/2012   9:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Marklin86 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Verry nice, you have some nice bullseyes there too
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Posted 05/15/2012   10:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
First, nice stamp, thanks for sharing.

Second, to get the best answer from the most people, post just a couple stamps in their own topic (start a new topic) asking for help to identify, and then when some identification has been made, edit your first post in that topic to change the topic title to include the country name at least.

This is for future people (and us) to be able to find the topic when searching and to help other searchers on SCF and Google find info about it / them.

Try to put stamps in their proper forum area if possible, US in US modern or old, etc, this helps a lot because people sometimes only collect and are expert at a certain area or country or era and that will help with identification and info.

row 1 - Greece or Greece area, cancel a variant of a bridge-type cancel (shaped like a bridge)

row 2 = Netherlands (Holland) Queen Wilhelmina , cancel year date 1904 (which helps you to date the stamp usually) (Modern stamps are harder this way as people can use stocks of stamps on mail because that way they get the best return on them instead of selling). There is probably a special name for this type of double ringing cancel but unknown at this time to me.

row 2 Belgium, King Leopold, cancel 1893 CDS (Circular Date Stamp) type that is SON (Socked On the Nose).

row 3 both Romania, both nice cancels of a railroad type, usually called RPO (Railway Post Office) or TPO Travelling Post Office, No44 might be a train number or just a post office depot number.

Cancels are a world of their own and change as the years go by or even have different types of the same one occurring at the same time frame. there are sometimes specialized catalogues just for these cancels.

row 4 US, not sure on anything about these, Washington, perfs cut close lowering the value to 10% if that, with a marvelous target cancel (concentric rings) and Franklin.

row 5 = Great Britain (Queen Victoria), with a fiscal (financial revenue) type hand written cancel. Knowing your monarchs helps narrow down the era when a stamp was used and where it is in a catalogue, good for selling also. GB is the only country to not have to have to state their name on the stamps, nowadays just a silhouette of the Queen (Queen Elizabeth II).

tow 5 US 5c Washington, cancel interesting, note that in classical (pre 1940) eras of stamps the UPU Universal Postal Union, had rules that countries followed to help aid the movement of mails. One was the colours of certain stamps. Blue was usually for an international rate.

row 6 There are those possible Greece stamps again (from row 1) but now I see the overprint along the bottom, these might be many countries that use a Cyrillic or similar script = so I don't know these.

row 6 China (mainland), the guy is Sun Yat Sen, Shanghai cancel, a British treaty port I think, so cancel is in English and you don't have to learn a version of Chinese today.

row 7 = there is no row seven.

So, if no one else answer s you on the possible Greece (probably not) stamps, go and post them in a separate topic by them selves.
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Posted 05/15/2012   10:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sometimes, in different parts of the world, by different people, cancels are called slightly different names.

Target = bullseye = concentric circle

OR

the placement of the cancel

SON = bullseye = well-centered

Can be a bit confusing but as long as you know what is being talked about you can translate.
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Posted 05/15/2012   11:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RockySC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, thanks for all of that information guys. For the USA stamps, were they marked like that before a certain year or something?

I do have a number of Greek stamps mixed in, so that one may be from Greece afterall.

I'll take your advice on posting a new thread for specific stamps. God knows I have plenty I can ask questions about. I can't believe how many hours I have poured into this since I just started this thread, lol.

Oh, and I found another one of those viking ship type of "stamps" that I posted about earlier. So now I have two of those.

Here are some more for the time being, including the front and back of one that I mentioned earlier...




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