Australia George V Cancel Question

I purchased this GV stamp today with which I am very happy!
I think it is a great cancel on the stamp.
Anyway, I cannot really make out the year in which the stamp was cancelled, I think 1931 but I am not sure how to read it.
Any help appreciated!

Thanks, Peter

I see 23 Oct 31, so I agree with your supposition.

KirkS

Yes, that is what I also read but I find the distance between the 3 and the 1 relatively large and it seems that the 1 from 31 is upside down.
I guess I am nitpicking.

Still, it's 1931 -- the upside down 1 would explain the kerning.

Maybe Rod, Smauggie, or another of the Aussie Collectors can tell us how commonly it happened.

Kirk

That is a fantastic stamp with that Pemberton, Western Australia SON cancel. Inverted date slugs are a fun curiosity and may have some appeal with Australia specialists.

The ocurrence of inverted date/time slugs is relatively rare, but because of the random nature of the ocurrences has not as yet attracted a following among collectors.

Pemberton...I live close by :)

Date slugs have individual number slugs
so interesting, but not rare, so to speak.
(my opinion only)

If you allow me some time (busy putting in a new patio today)
I'll get you the value of that handsome pmk.

Type D (iv) CDS
3 letter Month
small vert dash under "n" of "west.n"

Supplied by Austin Engraving under a 1915 contract

Pemberton earlist use 21st March 1916

26 CDS's have been recorded 5 with AUSTRAUA

Scarcity factor 3-4
(found in increased numbers, but the quality may suffer age and condition)




Far from it, that is "flyspecking" and is of interest.

Pemberton 1919

Similar sawmiller huts are still for Sale,
I very nearly bought one in late 2010...$80,000

Unfortunately they are on a 26 year leasehold.




In Pemberton you may climb a 72 metre Karri Tree

(I only managed half way up)

The Gloucester Tree is a giant karri tree in the Gloucester National Park of Western Australia. At 72 metres in height, it is the world's second tallest fire-lookout tree (second only to the nearby Dave Evans Bicentennial Tree), and visitors can climb up to a platform in its upper branches for a spectacular view of the surrounding karri forest. It is owned by the Shire of Manjimup.

Built in 1947, the Gloucester Tree was one of eight karri trees that between 1937 and 1952 were made relatively easy to climb so that they could be used as fire lookout spots. The suitability of the tree as a fire lookout was tested by forester Jack Watson, who climbed the tree using climbing boots and a belt. It took Watson six hours to climb 58 metres, a difficult climb due to the 7.3 metre girth of the tree and the need to negotiate through limbs from 39.6 metres up.

Another forester, George Reynolds, pegged the ladder and lopped branches to facilitate climbing the tree, and a wooden lookout cabin was built 58 metres above the ground. The Governor-General of Australia, Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester, visited the site during construction, and the tree and national park are named in his honour

The wooden lookout cabin was demolished in 1973 for safety reasons, and was replaced with a steel and aluminium cabin and visitors' gallery.[1] Currently the climb is done by stepping on 153 spikes that spiral the tree.

Only 20 percent of visitors climb to the top of the tree; most make it only part of the way before turning back.

wiki

Thanks Rod for the information!
I am not familiar though to several of the terms used, could you explain these please?

SON cancel?
And CDS?

What value (app.) does a scarcity 3-4 hold?
Not that plan to sell, just curious.

Thanks again!
Peter

Peter,
I really have no idea on value whatsoever........

This is purely a guess, from hours spent at auctions,
It is a particularly handsome cancellation
nice stamp in really good order.

If I was a pmk collector, I would think Australian $12-$50 mark
but that is a wild guess. (my local club experience where they do collect cancels)
3-4 scarcity is really not that rare, but SON is.

SON = "socked on the nose" the pmk is close to being central to the shape of the stamp format, central and crisp.
Yours is.

CDS = Circular Date Stamp, can be Solo or with an adjacent "killer"
(barred or wavy lines etc.

Hope that helps.

Some times a little knowledge is dangerous

I saw this at a club auction, and two of us wanted it,
I ended up paying $26

Now I took a punt, thinking it was rare, but apparently not
I may have overpaid for it
but crikey, I still love it.

SON but as you can see, not really central as yours is.....

HOME RULE

Thanks for the explanation Rod!
Socked on the Nose, great term!

Your Home Rule stamp is great btw!

I know I will be looking for more of those SON stamps.

I must say, I am just getting back into stamp collecting after a 15 year break,
and I find the internet a welcome aid for obtaining knowledge and
meeting fellow collectors.

Peter

Hi Rod,

I would say the ocurrence is rare, but it does not make the stamp/cover rare. I think that is what you are saying as well.

As one who does pay attention to cancels, I see them, but not very often at all.

Do you agree, or are you seeing these regularly (and if so which country?).

I see what you are getting at Smauggie,
yes, bit of a curly one,
The occurence of inverted date slugs, I guess is reasonably rare,
but does not command a "rare" value, perhaps an EFO value.

What postmark collectors seem to value in my experience,
is a nice clean well proportioned stamp, with the postmark
well positioned and readable. The matrix therefore met, is a vast array
of possible examples, I would presume they would also prefer the
postmark to be completely on the stamp, but cut squares
revealing the entire strike are dominant.

That is only my experience, I am constantly amazed at "values"
placed on odd items since joining ebay.
So certainly nothing is set in stone, desire and depth of wallet
set the standard of the moment.

Thanks Rod. That is what I was looking for, a meeting of the minds.

I've been brooding on this question of prices/values, too.

My conclusion is that, provided you're not buying to re-sell or trade, the price you pay is really quite immaterial. I have no idea now what I paid for this common (in Barwani terms) ½ Anna stamp on a home-made postcard



but whatever it was, I reckon it was cheap to gain such a nice specimen of that (smaller, entirely Hindi) cancellation from the tiny village of Talwada Deb to the larger village of Rajpur.