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Posted 11/06/2012   5:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chipg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
with Flo and Eddy - One of the great 60s bands - Happy Together, Eve of Destruction, Elenore, She'd Rather Be With Me, and many more.

Yeah, they deserve a stamp.
Yeah, it probably won't happen.
C.
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Posted 11/07/2012   8:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BlackJag to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There's a little more to this issue than first appears.

This is a new design for the Picture Postage stamp series as it has three vertical lines of grey dots between "CANADA"and the image and the top row of dots continues to the right to the middle of the stamp's inserted image. Refer to studystamps' image at the beginning of this topic.

This design incorporates "$1.29" in the lower right corner of the image (similar only to the 3 Air Canada's 75th anniversary Picture Postage issues which had the "Permanent" logo in the same location).

Canada Post's non-commercially printed Picture Postage stamps had the domestic postage rate value in the picture frame itself, if the value was indicated at all.

This issue has orange Fluorescent tagging instead of the normal green or yellow shades.


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Posted 02/22/2013   3:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Member sak and rallymanm reported the image under the Turtles Picture Postage stamp in another thread:


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Howdy all:
There is a big discussion going on about the stamp under the stamp on the turtle boxes. It is not really a stamp but a gluey substance that you can carefully preserve by carefully steaming the stamp off and it looks like this:
...rallymanm


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The glue indeed never dries out, it seems, so I'm not sure how the under-stamp can be collected.
...sak



It is not a stamp, but just an image showing where the stamp should be placed. The glue remnants are from the outer coating of the self-adhesive glue on the stamp, which is not water soluble. The inner coating of glue on the stamp dissolves when steamed, and allows the stamp to separate from the cardboard. The non-water soluble glue remains on the cardboard.
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BeeSee in BC
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Posted 02/22/2013   5:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a denomination there though.

Does the image on the cardboard shown have any tagging?
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Posted 02/22/2013   11:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Minesweeper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My stamp is not perfectly centered on the box, so I see part of the design underneath the actual stamp, there seems to be a thin bluish tagging, probably a guide line to set the stamp on the box.
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Posted 02/22/2013   11:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Minesweeper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BTW, should I keep the box intact, I mean with chocolate in it?
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Posted 02/22/2013   11:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Eat the chocolate Minesweeper. I remember finding old bits of chocolate behind the basement sofa when my son was a child, and it was not pretty. Even sealed, they will not preserve well
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BeeSee in BC
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Posted 02/23/2013   12:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am going to collect this box, opened flat, without its stamp as a stationery item - the indicium is printed on the cardboard with a denomination of $1.29. The tricky part is (as I mentioned elsewhere) the glue left behind by the stamp remains sticky (a week so far). My solution is to lay a small rectangle of wax paper over the indicium. It becomes transparent.
Incidentally, all Turtle boxes have been recalled in my area. There are none available.
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Posted 02/24/2013   2:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add canadianphilatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Incidentally, all Turtle boxes have been recalled in my area. There are none available.


Probably because there's a new postage rate =)

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Posted 02/26/2013   4:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Brad905 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Based on my understanding of Unitrade's listing policy for the new "Picture Postage" section, I would say that this will in fact be listed in the catalogue and given a PP number. It was sold in Canada Post facilities, and when Canada Post went on the road, such as at the Canadian Stamp Dealers Association show in early November in Toronto, they were there selling lots of these items.

That is where I bought mine. Foolishly, I should have got them cancelled and kept them, but I put them in the mail and never saw them again.
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Posted 02/26/2013   6:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add studystamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As noted earlier in this thread, the UPC barcode on the package is *not* a Canada Post one, so this is not a Canada Post-produced product.

The stamp was ordered as a personalized Picture Postage(tm) stamp by Nestle.

The Unitrade catalogue does not list personalized Picture Postage(tm) stamps, only those ordered by Canada Post.

I suspect that this 'Turtle' stamp will not be listed in the Unitrade catalogue.
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Posted 02/27/2013   12:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I respect studystamps point of view. However, were any Picture Postage stamps ever printed for the $1.29 rate? Aren't they all printed at the new rates: P $1.10 $1.34 $1.85 ?
If so, that would make the Turtles stamp an anomaly. Not because of the picture, but because of the denomination.
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Posted 02/27/2013   1:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Sak. It should be listed because of the denomination and because it was sponsored by Canada Post .

I also feel the older Freestyle Skiing stamp and the Toronto Maple Leafs 50th 75th anniversary stamps should be listed.

http://brcstamps.com/picturepostage...age_04a.html

http://brcstamps.com/picturepostage...tage_08.html
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BeeSee in BC
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Edited by BeeSee - 02/27/2013 2:28 pm
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Posted 04/01/2013   11:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Turtles packets with chocolates and stamps are now being sold by Canada Post. Product number is 250545, and the price is lowered from $4.99 to $2.99 according to the April-June 2013 Details.
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BeeSee in BC
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