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Baden 1850 Character ( A ) Is Wrong?

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Posted 11/23/2012   4:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add same to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Note the difference in character ( a )



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Posted 11/23/2012   11:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Under magnification, does it look like 'stamp' ink, or 'cancel' ink in the questionable area of the 'a'?

I put a circle around the secret mark on one of skilo's scans in this earlier thread:

https://goscf.com/t/14024

You could compare yours to his scan, if that is useful.
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Posted 11/24/2012   06:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add same to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 12/01/2012   09:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
SAME-----It looks like a plate flaw ,but its not listed in MICHEL specialised.The question is it a consistent flaw or a one time defect in the printing ,sorry can't answer that .
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No multiples of this error are known, so philatelists have long wondered how the error came
about. The two principal theories are: Error of Cliché, or Error of Paper Colour.
As well over 400'000 of the 9 Kreuzer were printed and over 700'000 of the 6 Kreuzer, if there
was an inverted cliché in the plate of the 6 Kreuzer throughout the printing, then over 8'000 of
the error would have been printed - and more would surely have survived. Thus, most students
have discounted the possibility of the error being a constant variety on the plate.
If, however, the printer accidentally used blue-green paper instead of rose because he saw "6"
instead of "9," then at least four such sheets would have been printed, interfiled and sold as 6
Kreuzer sheets, in order to explain the different towns known on the used examples (Achern,
Carlsruhe, Ettenheim, Orschweier). One could speculate that the penny-pinching postal officials
would not have wanted "spoiled" sheets to add to their costs, and so, in those early days before
philately became a science (and a popular hobby), they went ahead and placed them in stock.
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Baden_final.indd 11 30.1.2008 12:12:07Baden 9 Kreuzer Error of Colour Unused April 4, 2008 David Feldman SA
Mitigating against the "complete sheet" theory is the so-called "Simon Error," discovered in the
1930s on a cover by Baden expert and handbook author Siegfried Simon. He discovered a 6
Kreuzer stamp, used on cover from Carlsruhe, and having on its reverse, a full impression of the
9 Kreuzer value! This stamp was offered at auction by Joachim Erhardt in 1993 with a starting
price of DM 500'000.
If one were to have, say, a cliche error at the top right of a given plate, and were to print that plate
on both sides of a piece of paper, the stamp with the error on the front would have a normal
stamp on the back, and vice versa. Thus, the "Simon" error is supportive of a "wrong cliché"
theory. If this were the case, then the error must have been discovered early in the printing, and
the wrong cliche had to be replaced. Such was clearly the case with the Uruguay 240c error of
colour, among other famous classic printing errors. Although the above is suggestive, the means
whereby this error was produced (cliché or full sheet) is still an open question.
The Known Examples
The "Simon" error, despite having been certified by Brettl, Schmitt and Jakubek, has not
yet been recorded by cataloguers, not even the specialised Baden catalogue of Peter Sem.
The other errors known are:
The "Simon"
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Posted 12/02/2012   07:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add same to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I think I have a rare postage stamp of Baden 1858 stamps,"wrong cliché
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Posted 12/02/2012   08:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add same to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If my belief is true, this only known stamp this error, and will achieve a price more than 2 million euros.
I hope that luck
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Posted 12/02/2012   08:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hold up......SAME.......don't spend the money yet.First you need to get a German cert. for the stamp ,then you need to get a few newspaper articles written about it .Even a few articles in foreign philatelic newspapers . Then the search goes on for other copies.If none are found then you got a chance........so right now you got a possible plate flaw.....so let me start off the bidding for five dollars and thats only after I examine the stamp and find out it wasn't tampered with .
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Posted 12/02/2012   08:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add same to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just dream of my friend, I know that the road is long, but I live in China and few opportunities because they do not care about foreign postal stamps, I'm just dreaming.
I have this stamp 9 years ago, and since that time, and I am looking for information about it or like him, but I did not find.
If you can help me, I would be very grateful to you, my friend.
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Thanks for your posting ,I think with the internet you can make contact with the different philatelic organizations to have it expertized.Everyone here would agree that a German expert is the best one to validate your stamp .But if you have problems with that, you can contact the American Philatelic Society and a friend of mine and head of the expertizing there Mercer Bristow will help you get a APS certificate,that will be a start .
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Thank you for your interest, you could kindly send me some E-mails to some experts.
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Posted 12/02/2012   10:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Joe Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am no expert but does not seem legit.

In the scan you sent which is blown up to see. You see that all the tops of the letters have a black line out lining the charter.
That one small part above the 'a' does not also the tops of the letters the lines are mostly straight that mark on the 'a' is curved.



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