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Clever Names For Forgeries

 
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Posted 01/22/2013   2:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add spain_1850 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Ok, I was just going through one of my daily ebay searches and came across a seller from Argentina selling forgeries of Spanish stamps. Problem is they don't come right out and call them FORGERIES. Instead they chose a more "flowery" description......."Posthumous Private Print"...(along with quoting an actual CV for a real stamp)

I was just curious if anyone else has run across other inventive names to call FORGERIES, to try and fool people into thinking they are not FORGERIES?

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Posted 01/22/2013   2:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Often the forgers become infamous and occasionally forged will sell for more than originals if done by the right guy. Sperrati and spiro forgeries have a following and command quite a bit. Posthumous Private Print is likely the name of the forger and the items may go for a good sum . I don't know that name but I am sure someone will have details.
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Posted 01/22/2013   3:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One is known as the "Corean Clown" ;

Forgers of Empire Korean Stamps (1884-1905) and Japan were Wada, Kuriowa, and several others. Forgeries range from crude to excellent.
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Posted 01/22/2013   5:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've seen the same term 'posthumous private print' applied to the posthumous unauthorised reprints from the plates for the Indian State of Barwani. Genuine impressions, but worthless and made without the authority of the Barwani Post Office, which no longer existed when the reprints were made.

'Reprint' is another term I've seen applied to outright forgeries. I questioned one European, non-native English-speaker, on the use of the term. He tried to suggest that it was commonly used in his country for copies made from catalogues. Perhaps so, but in English a 'reprint' is a reprint from the original plates, and what he was trying to sell is a forgery, pure and simple.
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Posted 01/22/2013   11:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would recommend watching out for any of the following in the description,

Fake
Sham
Phony
Imitation
Falsification
Phoney
Copy
Forged
Bogus
Spurious
Mock
Unauthentic
Reasonable Facsimile

or

Recent Unauthorized Reprint (Rare!)

or

BAYOR

(Buy at your own risk)
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Posted 01/22/2013   11:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
you guys missed my favorite--------this is from many different stamp auction catalogs --------"RESEARCH COPIES" or "reference copies" .
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Posted 01/23/2013   11:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a new one ,instead of fakes to call them color copies .This the first time I seen this as part of a stamp auction lot {to have color copies mounted on album pages}.
I wonder how many ebay sellers are going with this in the future ,to put color scan stamps ,cut to shape and mounted in collections .

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Posted 01/23/2013   3:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent list partime !

I'd like to add a few more to watch out for, but let's not forget that terminology differs from one country to the next...as tonymacg pointed out.

Essays
Proofs
Printers Proofs
Printers waste
Unadopted designs
Colour trials
Rainbow trials

here is an example of the one above, still makes my blood boil!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GB-1940-1d-...trk:mewax:it

Unissued stamps
Reproductions
etc
etc

All very legitimate terms in their own right but all used on occasion to make a sale.

Be careful.

Londonbus1
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