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3 Pence Beaver Odd Cancelation Mark?

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Posted 02/17/2013   10:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Ross to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
So I'm scanning some stamps to help make a record of whats there, and I see an odd mark on a 3 pence #12 stamp. Any idea what it is?



A little face just above the beavers tail.
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Posted 02/17/2013   11:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ross to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK its in the 5 cent version too just I hadn't seen it in online versions.
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Posted 02/17/2013   11:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A happy Canadian sun. It always smiles like that. Pretty annoying.
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Posted 02/18/2013   07:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are you serious? There is actually a sun with a face on the beaver stamps??
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Posted 02/18/2013   09:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ross to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah well, still getting used to the new glasses! LOL! Besides none of the online examples I could find showed that very well!
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Posted 02/18/2013   09:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like someone invented emoticons long before computers :-)
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Posted 02/18/2013   10:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ross to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well it did seem unlikely there would be a smiley sun at the time! Live and learn!
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Posted 02/18/2013   10:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ross to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok so maybe someone with some experience could critique these two stamps then. they are 600 dpi scans (best my machine will do) I'm too new at this but let me make a stab at it. The 3 pence stamp is not well centered, The cancellation is faint (is that a plus?) The stamp is worn and rubbed off somewhat and I know that it is hinged. So less than ideal example but I still like it.

The 5 cent version could have been a better scan I cropped the left perforations. its hinged too and except for being slightly brighter not very different from the 3 pence. I am certainly new at this!
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Posted 02/18/2013   1:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a sharp example of the 5c with the "smiley"

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Posted 02/18/2013   2:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That 3P perf is the first perf stamp of canada and quite a rare one. Many will accept a very faulty one for their collection as nice ones can be $1000++ . If that is in your collection consider it a big bonus. Its actually well centered since a vast majority of them do not show all 4 margins. The 5cent is quite common although again centering is hard to find with all 4 margins.
Also on the happy face sun you can occasionally see rays of light from it on very good copies.
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Posted 02/18/2013   3:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ross to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They are in the collection yes and were singled out with some others. My intention is to pass them on as with a lot of the others.
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Posted 02/18/2013   3:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey BeeSee...looks like a smiley on the beaver stamp, but it is the sun with the rays worn off..But, looks like a smiley dosen't it..??
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Posted 02/18/2013   6:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 3Dadeo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For history buffs, you may be interested to know that the Three-Pence Beaver was designed by Sir Sandford Fleming, it was Canada's first stamp. He also came up with the idea of standard time zones. Way to go Canada.
The smiling sun of course was his idea. (the original smiley). It is often faint, or even invisible due to the wearing of the printing plates over time.
Here is a picture courtesy Canada Post Corporation.

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Posted 02/18/2013   7:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just in case it is hard to see 3Dadeo's picture...I darkened it so you can see the sun's rays.


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Posted 02/18/2013   7:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ross...The strange cancellation on your 5cent beaver could be what you see on the 1891 cover I have posted.


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Posted 02/18/2013   10:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 3Dadeo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Regarding the pen cancel, the early Canadian stamps (I only collect Canada, so I don't know if this is true for other countries) were often cancelled with a quick X using a pen.
Later, some postmasters made simple (or fancy/artistic) cork cancels, and of course eventually, a whole series of cancelling devices arrived at various offices.
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