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Rare Austria Newspaper Stamp 1856! $$$$$? Red Mercury

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Posted 07/08/2013   10:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK, everybody beat me to it. I think I'll just go home and play with my stamps...
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Posted 07/08/2013   10:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add anacapa_antiques to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
but anyways I used a phone camera so it may not have the best lighting but darn I'm gonna be super sad if it not real.

This collection we acquired is full of stamps that are worth 20-300 bucks , some I have sold on ebay already. overall the album is consists of more desirable stamps.

But yes I see the tunic is definitely off....

this stamp worth anything even as a fake
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Posted 07/08/2013   10:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add anacapa_antiques to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
is there any chance that this could ever be simply printed onto an envelope as an envelope stamp not a normal paper stamp....

or I guess what I am trying to say is what were they normally adhered too.

* note that I am only 20 and have only been researching stamps for 3 weeks
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Posted 07/08/2013   10:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Depends on who made the forgery. But in general, forgeries aren't worth anything close the genuine stamps. There are only a handful of exceptions in which the forgery is worth more than the genuine stamp, and this won't be one of them.

Sorry we cannot give you better news.
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Posted 07/08/2013   10:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add anacapa_antiques to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
merrrrrr
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Posted 07/08/2013   10:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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is there any chance that this could ever be simply printed onto an envelope as an envelope stamp not a normal paper stamp....

I didn't check, but if there were, then it wouldn't be that specific $50K newspaper stamp.

As Doug pointed out, there are numerous design differences. I'd be shocked if it were anything but a forgery. But since I'm not an expert, you're certainly free to pay some bucks to get a professional expert opinion.

Thanks for posting the pic! Always great to see stamps, genuine or forged.

k
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Posted 07/08/2013   10:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add anacapa_antiques to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the help
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Posted 07/08/2013   10:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pagoda to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
no, there are no Envelope stamps with that design.

Pagoda

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Posted 07/08/2013   10:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for checking, Pagoda!
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Posted 07/08/2013   10:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yours is a copy of a forgery, it is not a known forgery. I would guess yours is a Hialeah Fla. forgery. A computer made copy. They were sold on ebay under the sellers name ATDINVEST .
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Posted 07/08/2013   10:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To my eye, your stamp does not match any of the forgeries in Album Weeds or Serrane.

My opinion is that you'd have to identify the forgery and list the forger in the description in order to have a hope of making more than a minimal amount when selling this. Even then, minimal is relative, as it will go nowhere near an original.

Then again, there is no accounting for ebay, so I guess you never know what might happen...

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Posted 07/08/2013   10:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
floortrader, are you aware of any online effort to depict known Hialeah forgeries?
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Posted 07/08/2013   11:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
anacapa_antiques stated:


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the collector that own the book has not opened the book since the 1940s or 1950s.


If it is a Hialeah forgery, then the collector gave anacapa_antiques an inaccurate statement.

Should be interesting, if anybody has the time to do the additional research and see if it might be a Hialeah...

k
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Posted 07/08/2013   11:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add anacapa_antiques to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
you guys are the best this is awesome . Im really curious to see who made the forgery and when.
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Posted 07/09/2013   09:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Keep in mind also that certain forgeries are worth more than the real McCoy. Spiro forgeries fetch hefty sums at auctions and fournier forgeries do well also so hopefully not all is lost. But that being said, it appears to be too crude to be one of the famous forgers.

Here is a link to the Fournier Austrian forgeries, unfortunately the high resolution photos are disabled on the page but might be worth looking at.

http://www.geocities.com/claghorn1p.../010/010.htm
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