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Rare Austria Newspaper Stamp 1856! $$$$$? Red Mercury

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Denmark
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Posted 07/09/2013   10:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicalStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a 600dpi scan of the Fournier forgery



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Posted 07/09/2013   11:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add anacapa_antiques to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for the research.

So I am sort of confused , is this forgery worth anything or not ?
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Posted 07/09/2013   11:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Again, it would need to be sent in for certification and see what it comes back as.
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Posted 07/09/2013   11:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add anacapa_antiques to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ok the question is who makes forgeries pre 1950s .... or even 1940s ....

This book has not been opened since the 40s or 50s, it was sitting in a glass case display in a museum since the 1950s .....

The most relevant owner is sure of that.
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Posted 07/09/2013   12:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Katchem_ash to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Like many have said, that claim that you continually make, cannot be substantiated without proof. What Museum was is and why was it in the museum in the first place? Can you provide any pictures of the book and the various pages.

Not doubting your claims but it is quite "stretching" the truth.
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Posted 07/09/2013   1:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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ok the question is who makes forgeries pre 1950s .... or even 1940s ....

This book has not been opened since the 40s or 50s, it was sitting in a glass case display in a museum since the 1950s .....

The most relevant owner is sure of that.


Francois Fournier the famous Stamp forger died in 1917 so forgeries were obviously made before 1917.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C...mp_forger%29

Spiro Brothers forgeries go back before the turn of the 19th century.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Spiro

Most Stamp forgeries were done well before 1930.
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Posted 07/09/2013   1:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Several famous works on forgeries were written in the 1800's, including Album Weeds, which is still referenced from time to time. The Serrane Guide dates from the late 1920's.

The production of forgeries started shortly after the production of postage stamps.
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Posted 06/26/2014   7:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ernie1946 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

I was doing some sifting through some things that I have had for 50 - 55 years and I came across a stamp that I had saved because I couldn't identify it (I was 12 at the time). I do know NOW with the help of this forum. It appears to be an 1856 Red Mercury, however after doing a lot of research, it appears to be a forgery. Can anyone on this forum confirm my suspicions that it is in fact a forgery and also give me any information as to the age and the forger?

Many thanks in advance,

Ernie

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Posted 06/26/2014   10:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Ernie, and welcome to the forum. I am no expert but if you go back a few threads a picture of the real thing is shown. The real one has an Umlaut ( two dots ) on the A of Stampel. Yours does not, sorry!

Peter
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Posted 06/29/2014   4:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ecmorgan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately, this particular stamp (Scott #P3) is frequently a forgery (along with P2). In fact if you said you discovered one, before looking I'd assume a forgery before genuine, especially if it was unused.

A lot of forgeries with the US newspaper stamps as well.
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Posted 03/23/2016   12:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dominik to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello,

Here is a scan of a set I have.
What do you think? Does it look like the forgery or not?
They are traces of hinges an the gum is on.

Best,
Dominik

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Posted 03/23/2016   1:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dominik to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is close up of the red one.
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Posted 03/23/2016   1:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
We`re told that this one is genuine.



Your stamp`s `G` has no crossbar and the corners just don`t look right to me, especially the bottom two
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Edited by KGB - 03/23/2016 1:54 pm
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Posted 03/23/2016   2:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is one of my forgeries --

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Posted 03/23/2016   2:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


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