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Machin Id's By Scott Numbers

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Posted 09/23/2013   1:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add pjsstamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have been working on identifying Machin stamps by Scott numbers. Some are tough for me. I know that there is almost an infinite amount of varieties of these little buggers. I am not trying to go that far, (at this point). I am just trying to do this by Scott numbers. Some of the early low value stamps where there are four or more varieties with different sizes to the numbers all look the same to me. My long drawn out question is, Is there an easier way or a good referance online to help me?
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Posted 09/23/2013   2:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For Machins, this is the place to start.

http://www.adminware.ca/machin.htm

Regards, Robert
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Posted 09/23/2013   4:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Pjsstamps, I do not collect Machins, but am somewhat interested! I do collect certain Swiss stamps though, and maybe my findings may help?
I have found that Scott is a great catalog if you are going into depth with United States. Anything else Scott seems to be very much
untrustworthy. The Adminware list referred to above by Trainwreck is just what the doctor prescribed, you can go as general or as deep as you would like!

Peter
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Posted 09/24/2013   09:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pjsstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert, That is exactly what I was looking for. I had over 400 stamp reference sites bookmarked on my computer and that was one of them. My computer died, but I do have a young guy at work stripping my bookmarks and pictures off my old hard drive. I hope to have all that back next week, It has been two months.
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Posted 09/24/2013   10:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pjsstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Peter,
I usually do not collect any worldwide after 1900. The exceptions are US, UK and Canada. My youngest son actually got me going on machins. I have tried to get all my kids interested in stamps with little success. My youngest showed a fleeting interest in machins or as he called it colored queens heads. He lost interest when things with wheels and skirts came around.
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Posted 10/05/2013   10:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add clifhiker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
on a tangential note (I didn't want to start a new thread, as there are probably already several on Machins ...maybe even one addressing this question) ...

I'm sorting my way through a pound or so of low-value kiloware Machins and looking for the following low-value decimal varieties. My question is ... are these values pretty rare? Am I likely to find them in my kiloware bag? Or will I have to special order them from a dealer?

right now I need

2.5p rose madder
4p rust brown
4p cobalt
5p ash pink
6p lime green
7.5p pale chestnut
9p orange and black
10p light tan

and that's just in the first few rows of my collection ...

thanks!
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Posted 10/05/2013   3:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi clifhiker,
Drop me your details via pm and what Machins you require and I'll send you what I can.

Anthony
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Posted 10/05/2013   4:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pjsstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
clifhiker,
Maybe we can work out a trade. Do you have the Scott's numbers of the ones you are missing?
Pat
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Posted 10/05/2013   7:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add clifhiker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ok as I sort through this pile of Machins, I of course am noticing the banding ... after looking over the banding descriptions on Robin Harris's site I can tell that a UV light is a must. Correct me if I'm wrong, but do I have 4 different varieties of the common 9p stamp here? Or is the banding position variable?

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Posted 10/05/2013   8:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pjsstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well it depends. I view it as one variety. I only collect the varieties as listed in Scott's, and that is over 750 machins. I had to draw a line in the sand somewhere. If you start going after the different tagging/banding it bet the number is well over 2000 varieties by now. If you go for all the plate varieties, flaws and booklet pane configurations, well I can't count that high. In my SG catalog they list 12 varieties of this stamp.
I only collect used. I started to collect the tagging varieties and found myself buying mint stamps and whole booklet panes which is not what I collect. While I admire a clean collection with all the varities possible. I like my stamps "dirty" and I prefer socked on the nose cancels.
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Posted 10/05/2013   9:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dcastle to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have my Machins organized by the old Scott numbers...before they started classifying them as a separate group. Now I guess I have to reorganize and remount them as I update my Great Britain album....that's going to be fun. I actually kind of prefer them in context with the other stamps issued at the same time rather than as a separate group.
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Posted 10/07/2013   5:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add clifhiker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I managed to fill three slots on my first page of decimal, non-elliptical, not-worried-about-varieties Machins after sorting about a kilogram of stamps. I am pretty pleased since I know that I have quite a few higher values yet to sort and mount.

here are the three that I located ... the 9p black and orange was found, then lost, then either found again, or a second copy was found ... either way I got to fill that spot!


here's what I have and what I'm still missing on the front page ...
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Posted 10/07/2013   6:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice presentation of Machins.

Robert
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Posted 10/08/2013   04:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No surprises there.
The 16˝p and 17˝p are rarely found in kiloware but are not particularly expensive.
Good luck with this one



Took me ages and I have kilos to sort through.

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Posted 10/08/2013   07:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
25p salmon pink coil stamp with no ellipses. Sweet. Nice centering and light cancel too.

I have a mint example in my collection; looking for a used example to complement it.

Robert
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Posted 10/08/2013   11:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pjsstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are my first two pages





I am not ready with page three. I am having a tough time identifying the MH42-MH46 (4p greenish blues).
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