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Admiral Two Cents Variety

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Rest in Peace
Canada
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Posted 02/17/2014   11:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
woodstamp,
The stamp loos to be missing some paper on parts of the back, to me.

Maybe soaked too long or multiple old hinges removed in haste?

It does not look like it has any diamond pattern to the paper as mentioned way above in this thread for the thin paper, although I am no expert on those myself.
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Pillar Of The Community
United States
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Posted 02/17/2014   11:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add watermark to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Canadian Stamp Handbooks edited by Michael Milos, The Admiral Issue, Hans Reiche says the following:

"PAPERS: Papers used vary from a thin paper (2.7 thousandths of an inch) to a thick paper (4.5 thousandths of an inch) with the latter being uncommon. Both vertical and horizontal wove papers exist on some values and both wet and dry printing methods were used."

Your copy appears to be on vertical wove paper but I don't know if it is a wet or dry printing or the thickness of the paper. The ink could possibly show through if the paper is thin or possibly if it was a wet printing or a combination of the two.
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Canada
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Posted 02/18/2014   9:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add woodstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Puzzler, I suspect it is missing paper on the back, since touch and feel the stamp is very thick and solid. I don't think it is the thin paper. I'm just curious why the back is so translucent.

watermark, thanks for your info. It is very hard for to me with less paper knowledge to identify the paper varieties.
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Edited by woodstamp - 02/18/2014 10:43 pm
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Posted 02/18/2014   10:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add woodstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is this one an incomplete transfer variety?

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Posted 02/18/2014   11:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CoinWatcher to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am going to call a re-touch of that lower left NB & corner, any concurrence?

Where did you get all of these great stamps?
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Edited by CoinWatcher - 02/18/2014 11:11 pm
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Posted 02/19/2014   09:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AdmCol to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
woodstamp,

Regarding your query about the "translucent paper variety" on a 2c carmine stamp (see post of 17 Feb.), I believe this isn't a paper variety at all. American Bank Note used an aniline ink for printings of the 2c carmine in 1915. The aniline ink shows up on the back of the stamp. I believe your stamp is an example of this.

Regarding your most recent query - the 2c carmine with the misshapen lower left corner - I believe both you and COINWATCHER are correct. I think the stamp is an example of a defective transfer affecting the LL corner, and an attempt was made to correct the defect by retouching the corner - specifically the vertical and bottom lines of the left numeral box and the frame next to these lines. Your stamp is from the original die (plates 1 to 26). The retouching is obvious, but I was not able to find it described in Marler's 1982 book.

Like COINWATCHER, I am curious about the source of your stamps.
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Posted 02/19/2014   9:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add woodstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
COINWATCHER,It can be a re-touch one too. This is confirmed by AdmCol.

AdmCol, I agree with you. About the translucent stamp, I don't believe it is the paper variety.
Thank you for your detail information about the recent incomplete transfer and re-touch variety. I'm glad to find this one. The reason I want to have one is to have a complete set of varieties from the website you posted to me.
http://www.bnaps.org/ore/VanSomeren...arieties.htm
I have at least one example for each variety. A picture is worth a thousand words.
Regarding to the source where I bought these stamps from, they were from an individual person. His grandfather collected stamps for 70 years. He has no interest. I'm glad to be the first person to check these stamps. I bought stamps from the other places too: ebay, auctions and flea market.

If you check the stamp I posted on Feb 11, 2014 which has a minor reentry feature. It must come from the same plate as the last one, look at the low left corner, the similar feature.

Thanks,

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