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Printer De LA Rue In Trouble.

 
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Posted 02/14/2014   8:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add lithograving to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This article in Mail Online talks about the problems De La Rue has run into recently.

The article is over 3 years old and emphasizes DLR's bank note printing problems
but lets not forget that De La Rue was and still is a major player in the stamp printing business.

Quote from the article


Quote:
Thomas de la Rue set up shop as a stationer and printer in London in 1821. The Guernsey-born businessman initially specialised in playing cards, but tax and postage stamps soon followed


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/mos...t-money.html
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Posted 02/14/2014   8:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A quote from the Mail Online article.


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Once the security paper is ready, it's transferred to the similarly well-protected printing plant at Debden in Essex. Here the sheets are fed into a German-made and Swiss-designed 'Super Simultan' press, which prints the background images and designs for both sides of the notes. The 'Super Giori' machine is then fed 10,000 sheets at a time, each sheet yielding 40 to 60 notes depending on their size. The portrait of the relevant monarch or state principal and the denomination are printed on each note, with 300-400,000 produced per hour. They're then passed onto the 'Foiler', which inserts the thin strip of foil used in British notes as another anti-counterfeiting measure.


This shows again the connection between De La Rue the printer,
Koenig & Bauer the press manufacturer and the Giori design
team.

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Posted 02/14/2014   10:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"... The portrait of the relevant monarch or state principal and the denomination are printed on each note ... They're then passed onto the 'Foiler', which inserts the thin strip of foil used in British notes as another anti-counterfeiting measure."

This strikes me as a bit of misinformation intended to mislead wannabe counterfeiters; I would think that the foil is added at the time that the paper is formed from the pulp, not long after it is dried & printed.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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Posted 02/14/2014   10:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's a good point ikeyPikey but I bet the counterfeiters have it
all figured out.

Checking my "older" $10 and $20 Canadian 2004/2005 bills I can clearly
see that the foil strip with the holograms was printed after and over
the engraved portions of John A. Macdonald's and the Queen's head.

I believe that our Canadian Bank Note Co uses the same type
of press and techniques as DLR and so does the BEP.

Now the new Canadian banknotes released during the last couple of years printed on polymer
instead of paper are a different animal of course.

See here on the Bank of Canada site.

http://www.bankofcanada.ca/banknote...ies/polymer/
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Edited by lithograving - 02/14/2014 10:43 pm
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Posted 02/15/2014   03:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Galeoptix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Inside De La Rue - printing Dutch stamps in March 2006:



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Great pics Rein, surprised that you get into these security
facilities.

The stamps being printed are Netherlands, Scott 1252.

Scott lists them as printed by lithography

What make are those presses? Heidelberg?
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ATN = Applications Techniques Nouveaux , the name of the photogravure press in use at House of Questa in Byfleet before Questa was taken over by DeLaRue, and the press moved to Dunstable.

I first saw the reel-fed press in Byfleet a few years earlier ;)

See also: http://deltastamps.com/Fact01.htm
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So those stamps, Netherlands Scott 1252 were printed photogravure
not offset/litho ?

Is Scott wrong again?
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Posted 02/16/2014   02:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Galeoptix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You can see the ATN press printing these stamps! The photographs are not lying and I was there standing next to the press although the photographs were made a bit later on my request....

The Dutch Post Office official Ferdi Sieben and the designer Anthon Beeke were not quite satisifed with the colours so the printing had to be done all over again ;)

We were flewn in early in the morning and driven to the DLR premises. We were shown the DLR printings house a.o. the Müller-Martini reel-fed offset-litho press used mainly for printing fiscals and DVLA seals (Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency). Knowing the WSP also acquired a M-M a few years earlier I wondered why DLR had not been using the M-M for printing stamps as well.

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