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Posted 03/07/2014   8:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add bigmel222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I was wondering if any of the attached stamps show a definite doubling of the silver inscription? Anyone have any ideas?

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Posted 03/07/2014   8:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CanadaStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kinda hard to get a good look at these - but I've had copies that has what I consider quite serious over inking of the silver - so that there actually did look like there was a double print.
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Posted 03/07/2014   9:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bigmel222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the reply. I was thinking it was probably over-inking. Is there any way to tell for sure??
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Posted 03/07/2014   11:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gportch to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The silver is not printed --- it is foil stamped.

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Posted 03/08/2014   12:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The foils stampping is all over the place on this issue. I have one where the dollar symbol is outside the main image. The doubling mentioned in unitrade is on the actual black word Kluane at top left. I have one with definite doubling of kluane 727iii. Probably looked at 1000 more since I found that one and there are tons of shades , mis redistrations, and more. Someday someone will probably do a study just on this issue .
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Posted 03/08/2014   2:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The silver is not printed --- it is foil stamped.




Quote:
The foils stampping is all over the place on this issue



Why all this talk about foil stamping?

The stamp was a combination print 4 colours offset/litho and 1 colour
(silver) engraved.

Foil printing did not exist back in 1979, at least not on
Canadian stamps.

For this stamp the engraver cut deep and wide into the die
which caused the lettering of Canada and the value to be
raised much more than lets say "normal" line engraving.
Therefore when the the plate was forced against the paper
and the ink was sucked out of the grooves and deposited
in lumps on the paper.



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Posted 03/08/2014   2:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bigmel222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the input everyone!
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Posted 03/08/2014   4:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CanadaStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lithograving - well done. If the silver had been "foil stamped" then they used dull scissors to cut the foil.Many, many sloppy impressions.
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Posted 03/08/2014   5:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thamks litho-- Assumed with the silver being so raised it had to be like a crude hot foil stamping. The deep engraving would account for the many sloppy deposits. I do recall some specialty color inks at the print shop not being very easy to work with either so I'm sure that didn't help matters.
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Posted 03/08/2014   10:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nitro, you would know, having been in the printing business.
that engraving ink, in comparison to printing ink, is dense and opaque.

Probably the printer CBNC used a metallic ink which would
give it a lightly textured or granular appearance.
This would account for the dimpled or lumpy engraving.

Perhaps the stamp designer wanted to achieve this rough type
of look instead of smooth lettering and the engraver and printer
obliged.



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Posted 03/10/2014   2:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gportch to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Apologies everybody for my bad posting on March 7. I must have had a senior moment because there is no way this stamp was foil stamped.

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