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Posted 03/26/2014   10:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mestal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lol, stallzer and cjd, but you are still wasting time here, acting like kids... lol. And the one who spot the forgery was postmaster. The others just talk, and I´m glad to know certainly now what I have, even if it is a forgery, thats was I was looking for, smart answers.
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Posted 03/26/2014   10:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mestal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
knuppster, I was very clear on my requests, but any answers did the job, so I keep searching, then someone was inappropriate -stalzer- with me then I was inappropriate with him.
If someone answer is not good, I´m not been unfair pointing that out. Classicstamps was nice, but the answer was not good so I just pointed that out, keep searchin, as easy as that. And this is the last time I mess on this issue, thanks everybody!
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Posted 03/26/2014   10:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
was this a test
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Posted 03/26/2014   11:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
LOL and we all failed. Obviously every single one of mestal's stamps is the rarest variety worth thousands of $$$ and we are all wrong in our opinion that they are merely common stamps/forgeries. Oh well, as they say "Live and Learn"
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Edited by Jenny2U - 03/26/2014 1:50 pm
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Posted 03/26/2014   11:12 am  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Multiple people pointed out it was a forgery, Mestal. They did not need to know EXACTLY what type of forgery it was to know it was fake. Most of the time, you do not need to be an "expert" to see a fake - you just need a catalogue and some common sense. If you do not like the advice or comments of our community, go somewhere else.
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Posted 03/26/2014   11:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Svensson to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You have all failed in providing free research and dispensing free expertization services on behalf of this Gentleman. I would be ashamed. lol
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Posted 03/27/2014   06:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is time for the community to move beyond Mestal.
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Posted 01/14/2015   2:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey I found one!
Picked this out of an album. Assumed it was a fake. Searched the web and was led to this thread.
Actually good information aside from the silliness.


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Posted 01/14/2015   2:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
stampcrow,

Yours is listed in the GPS forgery manual as Forgery No. XII.
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Presenting the GermanStamps.net Collection - Germany, Colonies, & Occupied Territories, 1872-1945
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Posted 01/14/2015   2:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nl1947 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Here's one that fetched over $2,200 in a Cherrystone auction in 2009. Note how the "R" and "E" in Drei are connected:

Just curious, is this a common trait? Generally it is the S&A that are connected.

Also on the original:
The A&N on bottom generally connected (some sheet exceptions)
The missing lines in the petals as mentioned -common trait
The bottom N right side top should not curve
Some originals have a noticeable break on the left inner frame near the RE
Generally the letters C&O are smaller
The inscriptions are often off centre
All forgeries are litho except 1?
Most fakes have a yellowish paper

Sperati also made this one - much better details including the missing petal lines
The forgeries on this item are MANY in variations.

I think everyone should make an effort to note discrepancies & traits of Forgeries/Originals so that everyone can learn beyond just pointing out the obvious.
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Posted 01/14/2015   6:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Postmaster.
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Posted 08/10/2015   7:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Finally took the time to clean this one up. Adding it to my small collection of forged stamps. It cleaned up pretty nice.

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Posted 08/11/2015   09:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GotStamps5 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi guys. Being a total newbie and reading tons of info trying to sort things out, I have a question about forgeries. Are some forgeries so popular that they have their own number?

Quote:
It's a Type XI forgery


Does that mean that maybe they have some worth? Just curious..

Also, just a thought, but if someone really wanted a particular stamp for their collection would said person use a forged stamp as opposed to none at all?
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Posted 08/11/2015   10:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gotstamps5, the stamp in question has several subtypes. Printing techniques were not as precise yet, so the stamps in a sheet were all identifyable by certain properties. These varieties were identified as type I, ii, iii and so forth. Fakers would use a stamp as an example, in the above case it was the original type XI that was forged.
Now, as a matter of fact, people do collect forgeries. Not because they can not afford the real thing per se, but mostly as a record. I have several forgeries of stamps of the Dutch Indies, merely to help me identifying the real thing. Does this help?

Peter
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Posted 08/11/2015   10:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
MESTAL ------You need to be more respectful to those who are trying to help you out and don't fire back so quickly . I respect all of those who you gave negative remarks to . I seen them help hundreds of posters in the past and support their opinions . If your looking for expert advice ,you will get it here .
Lets get on subject now , The stamp you posted is a forgery and it is the ninth forgery as described in ALBUM WEEDS by Earee .
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