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Making Your Own Cancel With An Mpp

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Posted 06/09/2014   11:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add guykickinit to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
So I have always like the old Cork cancels from the early years and came up with a wonderful idea; assuming it works.
I already have my own Postmark Permit and thought that I should devise a way to apply a killer to stamps that reach beyond the killer bars on my postmark. It bugs me that the post office uses a sharpee to cancel stamps, so I thought why not make my own.

I am interested in the thought of carving a cork cancel/killer to go along with my permitted one.
Would it be to cliche to do? Or just cool?
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Posted 06/10/2014   12:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The *only* worthwhile question is the artwork:

Palm Tree?

Skull & Cross Bones?

Owl? (see ancient Greek coins)

U.S.? (see old US Army insignia)

Fallout Shelter logo?

Sildenafil pill?

Non-Roman Non-Latin letter? (lots to choose from)

Basically, you need something recognizable / comprehensible in a coarse medium.

UnPerf'd Perfins?

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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Posted 06/10/2014   02:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You raise an interesting point. I hadn't considered fine details on a cork cancel, or what type of cork.
I think you're definitely on to something with the coarse texture for the base. But, artwork....
I must consider this. It would need bold enough lines to not deteriorate too quickly, but enough detail to be interesting.
Thank you
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Posted 06/10/2014   02:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Count me in for stylized palm branches as in this real cork cancel from Panama.



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Posted 06/10/2014   07:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mailer Postmark Permit cancels hqave there own rules.
The rules are set by the Post Office.
You can not just make a cancelling device to cancel outgoing mail.
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Posted 06/10/2014   12:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, You can. As long as the Postmaster that grants your permit accepts the cancel you use. Most post masters dont even know the MPP rules exist. My PM had never heard of it. I was able to provide the necessary details in order to get a permit. If you look into it; there is actually a history of attractive cancels from MPPs. I have a sheet somewhere. I'll see if I can find it and scan it in.
Frankly, they dont really care about it much. He rule states that it must be handed to the clerk. My PM has informed after I had dropped several off that I should just drop my mail in a box.
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Posted 06/10/2014   1:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
guykickinit....
I have a MPP...Harvey, LA #001.
Beeb so long...I lost the darn thing.
BUT....there was rules/guidelines that had to be followed.
Such as....location, date, bars, etc....then to be handed to clerk.
I dont think you can get a permit for a "FANCY CANCEL" per say.
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Posted 06/10/2014   1:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since I already have a permit for my regular one, I will see what my PM says about adding a designer killer to it. It would have to accompany the permitted cancel, but being that the permitted cancel is in play, the addition may be considered similar to a cachet, though being quite different.
As to handing it to a clerk; my post office prefers it to be dropped in the mail slot. theey see me and wave, unless there is a new stamp issue they think I would be interested in. I have a digital cancel catalog from probably the only guy, (Joe LoPreiato) left that works with manufacturers to get them done right. I'll try to upload it.
My PM said since it all goes in the same bin, there is no need to hand it to a clerk.
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Posted 06/10/2014   1:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 06/10/2014   3:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see the above post....
but that is just a sample of what a rubber stamp dealer can do.
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Posted 06/10/2014   3:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 06/10/2014   4:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have all those docs saved to my computer. in fact I provided those to my Postmaster in order to get my permit. I didn't post the whole catalog as pics will look into saving the PDF somewhere to share.
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Posted 06/10/2014   4:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
that is just a sample of what a rubber stamp dealer can do.

True, however, Rubber stamps have often been added to mailings to indicate other things, sometimes not mail related.
The object is to add a marking in addition to the postmark, which may also touch the stamps.
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Posted 06/10/2014   9:54 pm  Show Profile Check DC3's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add DC3 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, everybody!

Besides the aforementioned MPP Club website (of which I am a member), you can visit and explore the MPP Group that I started on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/427062007360280/.

Many good points have already been expressed in this thread.
The best news, as guykickinit already said here, is that local postmasters have the practical latitude to tolerate/accept variations in the design of a MPP canceller, and its use.

Initially, I thought that the postal workers (associates) will only tolerate a "rubber stamp"/"cachet" that does not interfere with the MPP cancel.
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Posted 06/10/2014   9:58 pm  Show Profile Check DC3's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add DC3 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Later, I saw that local postmasters/workers have accepted even MPP cancels with a pictorial image that "interferes" with the MPP "official design" per USPS Form 3615.
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Posted 06/10/2014   10:18 pm  Show Profile Check DC3's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add DC3 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My grey wolf #maxicard with #MPP cancel.
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