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Newfoundland Scott # 146 - Lathework..?

 
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Posted 11/20/2014   10:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi guys...Take a look at these 2 NFLD Scott #146 stamps..Is this what Unitrade refers to as "lathework"..?

NORMAL STAMP





SUSPECTED LATHEWORK STAMP


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Posted 11/20/2014   10:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
See page 86 in the Unitrade Canada catalog that talks about lathework on Admiral stamps to get an idea of it.
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Posted 11/20/2014   10:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BlackJag to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wert - lathework appears only on the pane's selvedge, not on the stamp.
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Posted 11/20/2014   10:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Got it now...NOT lathework..Thanks blackjag and jogil.
Robert
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Edited by wert - 11/20/2014 10:52 am
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Posted 11/20/2014   10:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lathework is some kind of fancy engraving on the selvage of some stamps.
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Edited by jogil - 11/20/2014 10:56 am
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Posted 11/20/2014   1:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wert,

I am so happy that you are back down the Newfie rabbit hole...for a while there, I was disappointed in your other posts, but you seem to be back. hah!

Please tell me you have the 2014 Walsh Specialized Catalog...or else, tell someone you need it for Christmas.

Unitrade is great but without the NSSC you are in high school depth. For example, I believe your posted stamp is not #146 but either #164 (1929) or #173 (1931) because of a specific identifier. The general background is that there were 3 issues of the engraved "Publicity Issue" of all these stamps (1c to 30c) and each had subtle changes from the 1928 issue (no watermark) to 1929 (no watermark) or 1931 (watermark). Keeping track of the differences is either mind numbingly annoying or exciting--or both. 3 possible stamp varieties of the same stamp?!

So, the tell on the 2 cent is that the rear mast has one front leading guy wire ...not two. if you look really closely you have in fact posted two examples of the the 164/173 and the 146. your first image at the top has one forward guy wire (this is the angular wire that comes down from the rear mast towards the deck--not the rear guy wires which go back and down and not the wires that go forward at a perpendicular line). your second image above has two front guy wires. So you have posted a perfect example of the 1928 version (two guy wires) and the 1929/1931 version (one guy wire). Now all you need to do is check for watermark on the one guy wire version to classify it as either #164 (1929) or #173 (1931).

(as an aside, unitrade has another tell which relates to the height of the flag but I like the guy wire one better).

Enjoy
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Edited by tommy - 11/20/2014 1:56 pm
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Posted 11/20/2014   1:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a link to a Lathework stamp:

https://goscf.com/t/33828&whichpage=33#334549
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Posted 11/20/2014   2:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a lovely example from stamporator's collection.



More are found here: https://goscf.com/t/11776&SearchTerms=lathework
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Posted 11/21/2014   12:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add YoshiRules2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Newfoundland Postage looks gorgeous.
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Posted 11/21/2014   2:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add XNBer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think another tell may be slight difference in the amount of sag in the lower two antenna wires strung between the masts and funnel.

BTW, The wire between the tops of the masts is also an antenna. It appears to have the same tautness in both varieties shown.

All three antennas are shown clearly in an illustration of the actual ship at the 16 second mark of this YouTube video:

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There also is interesting information about the Caribou at:

http://www.heritage.nf.ca/law/caribou_sinking.html
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Posted 11/22/2014   6:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NBSTAMPER to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lost a relative in this sinking - William Palmer Howse (born 1910) had just joined the R.C.A.F. and was returning to Newfoundland to be married when the ship was torpedoed.
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Posted 11/23/2014   12:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
R.I.P. William Palmer Howse
Lest we forget.
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