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Posted 04/05/2015   02:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Rolle to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
What is this a stamp Romania overprint 1918 ?

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Posted 04/05/2015   02:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Probably scott 242 Michel 239 very common
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Edited by area66 - 04/05/2015 02:57 am
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Posted 04/06/2015   12:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yours looks like the overprint on the 1914 issue. They were produced in four different perforations, 11 1/2, 11 1/2 x 13 1/2, 13 1/2, and 13 1/2 x 14. At first glance yours looks like 13 1/2 x 11 1/2. The only one that catalogs less than yours are the 13 1/2 x 14 perforations. There are inverted overprints, double overprints, red overprints, overprints on the back, overprints diagonal and errors of overprints on the engraved issue of 1908. In addition an enterprising dealer managed to get overprints on the emergency war paper versions (one sheet each in two of the perforations, and four sheets with the overprint on the back).
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Posted 04/08/2015   8:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dwaters to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's one with a red overprint that is REVERSED.

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Edited by dwaters - 04/08/2015 8:59 pm
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Posted 04/08/2015   9:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'd suggest the red reversed is a forgery.
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Posted 04/08/2015   9:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dwaters to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect it is not a regular issue, but perhaps it resulted from somebody experimenting with the printing equipment. (a form of "printer's waste")?
I haven't found any description of it but it could also be a forgery designed to look like a valuable error stamp.
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Posted 04/09/2015   12:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not printer's waste.
I suspect a direct attempt at deception. A forgery.
Rope too thick
"1" touches "9"
appears to have all the hallmarks of a common forgery.
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Posted 04/09/2015   1:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dwaters to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I will transfer it to my forgery collection along with the Japanese stamps and the Russian Army of the North.
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Posted 04/09/2015   3:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Personally, I like to keep forgeries in their correct place, in sequence in the Romania Catalogue
They are valuable tools to make subjective comparisons on future possible forgeries that you may happen upon,
Romania has its fair share of the naughties.

You need not take my word for it, you may make your own assessment, by looking at the "1918" forgeries here
The "thick rope" as I call it, is an immediate red flashing light.

(Click on the 1918-19 opt on left hand side of page)

http://www.romaniastamps.com/forg/forgeframe.htm



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Edited by rod222 - 04/09/2015 3:12 pm
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Posted 05/26/2017   6:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add iStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
is it color production error on this Romania 1leu stamp1920 thanks



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Posted 05/26/2017   9:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Opinion:
Yes, a genuine stamp, possible condition due to over-inking, or plate wear.
Romanian stamps of this issue, come in all stages of crispness, to very poor impressions.

Sc#269

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Edited by rod222 - 05/26/2017 9:06 pm
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Posted 05/27/2017   06:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add iStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's wonderful, thank you for sharing your opinion with me
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Posted 05/27/2017   06:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You're very welcome,
I would add, your image, would be one of the most extreme, I have seen.

You appear to have "Type lll" (Thicker "U" in Leu)
Type 1 is short "U"
Type 2 is long "U"

One needs a collection of duplicates to observe.


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Edited by rod222 - 05/27/2017 06:41 am
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Posted 05/27/2017   06:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add iStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's truly nice to read that. I searched the net to find similar one, but couldn't find any, so I guess that it's not mentioned in the specialized catalog. Believe me I'm very skeptic regarding my findings :-)
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Posted 05/27/2017   06:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A measured scepticism, is wise in Philately.
Bear in mind, I have collected Romania for some time, but I am far from being an expert. Never hurts to ask others.

Here are the long and short of the "U" in Leu.

PS: I have also seen, violet stamps held in coin plastic pockets, with bad ink migration, leaving the stamp with indistinct printing borders similar to your image.

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Edited by rod222 - 05/27/2017 06:53 am
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Posted 05/27/2017   07:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add iStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ohhh, I didnt know about the long and short "U" , I focused only on the color, so you thing that this one should be sent for certification?

In coin plastic pockets?! I guess people are very resourceful when it comes to getting fast money :(
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