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Harrietville Gold Mining Document. Victoria, Australia.

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Posted 08/12/2015   08:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add codexluminati to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I found this interesting document with some victoria stamps used as revenue.
I would like to know what the rate 13/4,10/- ,9/2 or 8/4 stands for.
Also cannot decipher the first 3 jobs under how employed , the forth is miner.



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Posted 08/12/2015   08:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
1st job is foreman
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Posted 08/12/2015   08:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add codexluminati to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tx, 1 down, 2 to go.
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Posted 08/12/2015   09:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fabulous! codex.
We need better scans of the "how employed"
(up closer)

I would like to know what the rate 13/4,10/- ,9/2 or 8/4 stands for

= Rate of Pay in pounds /shillings /pence = £/s/ d
So 13/4 would be 13 shillings and 4pence per week 24 days per day

Ergo: 8 shillings and 4d (8/4) for 24 days = £10

20 shillings to a pound (£), 12 pence to a shilling (1/-)

The purchasing power of £10 in 1892 was the equivalent of £174 in 1977 and £746 in 2006.


http://www.aussietowns.com.au/town/...ietville-vic



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Edited by rod222 - 08/12/2015 10:43 am
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Posted 08/12/2015   11:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add codexluminati to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info and the link.
Here is a zoom for the 2 "how employed" to identify.

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Posted 08/12/2015   12:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting. There are two "Beckton", two "Chalmers" and two "Bibby" on this list. Are they brothers? Father and sons? Struggling with the job titles though.
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Posted 08/12/2015   12:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stylized "m" in miner is similar to the first letter in Mr. Dickinson's job description. I'm wondering if it might be "night" something.
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Posted 08/12/2015   1:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Inspired, and got it! Night do, i.e. Night Foreman. One more to go...
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Posted 08/12/2015   1:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, do. short for ditto
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Posted 08/12/2015   4:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add codexluminati to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Jenny and tim, well spoted.
The 3rd one almost look like lieutenant, but is not that.
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Lieutenant as in Foreman's Lietunant i.e. his deputy? Mainly because that's what it looked like to me too.
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Posted 08/12/2015   4:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add codexluminati to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Possible,and there are 3 of them, lets see if others agree.
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Edited by codexluminati - 08/12/2015 4:50 pm
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Posted 08/13/2015   01:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I thought that too, but still find it hard to put it into context. I don't recall British miners ever using this term.
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I don't believe it's lieutenant, because the last letter does not resemble a "t", which the writer was quite clear about. I'm wondering if the first letter isn't perhaps a "T". There's a similar first letter in "T" Clemons (cheque #596), which is signed on the right as "Thos Clemons", followed by the initials "TC". I also think the last 3 letters are "man".

Another possibility for the first letter is "J" as in John Bibby (cheque #597).
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Edited by Jenny2U - 08/13/2015 04:06 am
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Posted 08/13/2015   05:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add codexluminati to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe something like timberman?
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Posted 08/13/2015   07:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StevieG to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a few of those miners and their families ended up in Harrietville Cemetery. The link below describes the people with headstones at this cemetery. (Images can be obtained for free by emailing the site owner). There are quite a few surnames mentioned (Beckton, Bibby,Gow, Clemens......).
That word has got me confused too. The last part looks like it could be foreman. Could it be Secondforeman in abbreviated form... "Sec'dforeman" or some other level below foreman?

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~a...ietville.htm
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