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Are Stamps Produced For Training Considered Cinderellas?

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Posted 10/20/2015   5:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add tlmcca to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm cataloguing a collection I bought and found several Great Britain training stamps similar to this one in an ebay listing:



Are these considered to be cinderellas? I'll be listing on stamps2go.com and want the listing to be as accurate as possible.

Terry
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Posted 10/20/2015   5:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is it a revenue stamp?
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Posted 10/20/2015   6:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tlmcca to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Is it a revenue stamp?


sdtom: No, these are stamps used in training classes for postal employees.

Terry
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Posted 10/20/2015   8:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
for more information on Training School stamps...

http://www.gbos.org.uk/index.php/Country_List/40
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Posted 10/20/2015   8:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Timcca, here in the States they are sometimes referred to as " Test Coils " when they are perforated only on two sides. They are up for sale on ebay all the time, and they are listed in the Scott STAMP catalog. PNC3, the Plate Number Coil Collectors Club, also lists them in their catalogs. Does that make them stamps? I do not know, but if you check under "plate number coils" on ebay you can see how others are trying to sell them!

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Posted 10/20/2015   9:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scotzm, thanks for the link. Great site!
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Peter, does it make sense to draw a distinction between Great Britain's "Training Stamps" used to train personnel versus the Scott US Specialized listings of "Test Stamps" used to test vending and affixing equipment (and for advertising purposes).

My thinking being that the US listings make no claim of use for personnel training, nor do the vast majority have have a pseudo face value needed for such training. Unless new listings have been added since the 2011 edition, I am unaware of any listing of US training stamps, although here is an actual US training item:

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Posted 10/21/2015   6:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CanadaStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Testing and training are the same thing. One tests equipment and processes and one trains staff in equipment and processes.
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Posted 10/21/2015   7:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't call them cinderellas (even if they might be cinderellas in a technical sense.) Most people's idea of a cinderella is quite different, I would guess.
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Posted 10/21/2015   10:21 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
John - I've never seen one of those US training crads before (and I do collect test stamps). Great item.
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Posted 10/21/2015   11:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It most certainly is. Would make a nice addition to my cover collection.
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Posted 10/22/2015   02:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Are these considered to be cinderellas? I'll be listing on stamps2go.com and want the listing to be as accurate as possible.


You should list them under Cinderellas because that's what they are.
But I do respect others opinions of what is a Cinderella and what is not, the same as I do for postage stamps. I hope others respect mine too.
As a member of the Cinderella Stamp Club [UK], I follow their list and that includes just about anything that is not in the basic SOTW catalogues by Gibbons and Scott. Some other catalogues list what some may class as Cinderellas.
So PO Training Stamps, Coil testing stamps and many USA sections from the specialized catalogue are all discussed at the CSC, including Revenues.

So get listing !

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Posted 10/22/2015   07:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To answer your question ,Yes there is a lot of material which is unusual and no other place to list them,so it would be correct to call them CINDERELLA . Here is a sample of some stuff I put into my Cindy Collection.

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Posted 10/22/2015   08:40 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Moving farther back in time, there were similar stamps in the 19th and early 20th centuries, referred to as "college stamps" or "business college stamps", which were usually facsimiles of popular designs, used in training classes at business schools/colleges.

They are considered a subcategory of cinderellas and there are catalogs on them (I think some are covered in the 9th edition Springer catalog).

Eric Jackson has quite a few in inventory:

http://www.ericjackson.com/rsubprod...Group=&Cond=
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Posted 10/22/2015   08:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would never consider revenue stamps of any kind as Cinderella's, since they were official government approved issues. The idea that any "non-postage stamp is a Cinderella" is far too narrow a definition in my opinion.
Although bedding tags in general are very common, examples with 7 different state or local revenues are certainly not. Lovely item.
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Posted 10/22/2015   09:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
REVCOLLECTOR -----I hope someday to have my own website for CINDERELLA material. There is a lot of stuff that is questionable to add to it ,but by having a sample of all kinds of material I hope it can be used to explain something to a new collector . I already have twice the amount of pages as the WITT COLLECTION ,which to me is the best source for reference to new collectors .
I am right now breaking down a huge accumulation and writing up a few pages each day ,a lot of it has no reference source to develop a explanation for . A lot of the post-Soviet or Russian Federation is junk but I want a fair showing of this garbage because I believe you can and will for the future find this stuff on the internet at inflated prices .We need a site that collectors around the world can reference this stuff and understand the value of it.
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