References?

I'd like to become a member of one or two stamp organizations and am puzzled by the request for references. I have no real standing in the stamp community and am a complete amateur collector. Might someone explain what is needed in this regard?

Most of these groups will waive that if you are an APS member, although I've seen a few that don't. Like so much else in organized philately, some groups seem stuck in a time warp- I've seen some application forms asking for philatelic AND commercial references, such as 'department stores.' (!) Some application forms look to have been designed 30 or so years ago.

I would email them and be upfront, explain your situation and ask what they suggest. Be sure they understand you respecttheir reasons for this. You might get some leeway.

Thanks much!

I only shop at Cartier, but have been photographed at the Dollar Store. Sounds like my chances of joining are slim to none. (Wink.)

I would also consider any stamp dealer that you have had dealings with.

Thanks, chris! Good idea!

..."puzzled by the request for references"
When I joined a couple of philatelic clubs they asked for a referee and they meant anyone of good standing in the community such as a church minister, schoolmaster, employer etc. That was to show them you were a decent sort of bloke. A stamp organization might have different criteria to a philatelic club but at least you could ask what sort of referee is required.

Tell them you have over 1100 postings on this chat room and never kicked off and have answered many dozens of posters who had questions .

Auction houses and stamp dealers.

floor, what if they read all my dumb jokes?!

Say they were mine. They'll believe it.



-IBFS


btw-- Seriously, if it helps, I would be glad to give you a reference like "upstanding member of SCF..." or something to that effect, if it helps.

your doomed

When I returned, so to speak, I bought supplies - and shamelessly listed Subway & BCW as references for the first club.

I hate those snooty people who require a reference to join a club. In my opinion, it's a BAD hold over from a bygone error.

Give SATAN as your reference -- tell them if they don't like it, to return your check and you'll spend your time and money elsewhere.

If you do, I'll bet a month's pay, they cash the check and welcome you with open arms.

Kirk

In many cases the requirement for references is in the bylaws of the club. Yes, it is probably a hold-over from 30 or more years ago, but if it requires a vote of the entire membership (rather than just the board) to modify the bylaws it can be enough of a pain that it is easier to leave it be. In most cases an e-mail to the membership person will generate a solution. If you list the name of the club, there may be members reading this board that would agree to serve as your reference.

Send your money. No organization will turn you down. If your check clears - your a member. It's a ruse to keep "bad eggs" away. Today, no organization will risk the threat of a open lawsuit.

Sometimes "references" mean a club sponsor is desired for the new membership. The club often have contest for who recruits the most new members. Typically there is a "default" sponsor if no on steps up.