Fake Perforations

Here's an ebay listing of fake added perforations:

http://www.ebay.com/usr/wlee08

jogil....what is the problem???
Seller CLEARLY stated fake in title??

Nothing in the original post says s/he's reporting a problem. It's just informational. This is what fake perfs can look like.

Wonder why he lists some of them under 'Errors, Freaks, EFO' category? They obviously all have the same fake perf gauge. His listing notes "This double-perf fake was handmade to exacting standards. The spacing of the fake perforations matches the spacing of real perforations from this era. This stamp is part of a limited series of fake misperf stamps."

Limited series? Exacting standards? Why would someone want to flood the marketplace with fake perf stamps? While I concur that at least the listings are marked as fake, will we start to see these reoffered as legitimate at some point in the future? Hard to see how anything good can come from these.
Don

Backs are marked/stamped. (not as fake though)
But seller is not trying to deceive anyone here.
Everything is clearly stated/marked.

Just a gimmick to sell something....period.

I have yet to read a post on SCF where a collector decided to destroy, or even transparently sell, faked/forged stamps.

Rather, on every occasion, I read "these go will add these to the faked/forged stamps page in my album".

It seems small steps from "will retain" to "collectible" to "market niche".

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

Edited to add: from the profile, it seems this is a de-accessioning collector; good for him!

Here's a better page: http://www.ebay.ca/sch/Stamps-/260/...&_ssn=wlee08

Scary eh jogil...Easy to do miss perfs.

Robert

It looks like the seller himself is doing the perforations:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Grant-Presid...AOSw~bFWMkym

I can easily find genuine items to buy for $15 - I wonder who would want these? Even without being told, the extra perfs look "off" somehow ...

Oh well, he is including the perfs. Heck, I think I'll by a few! LOL

We have some folks who have previously spoken against soaking stamps off paper, but here is a person who is running fake perfs on what appears to be fault free stamps. I would have thought there would be more push back on this behavior.

Perhaps this fellow is just doing a social experiment like our previous community member Carl. Or perhaps he is practicing for more profitable endeavors in the future. What is next? If he purchases a few period cancellation devices will he start producing some fake used stamps and covers? Guess it will be ok as long as he lists them as a 'limited edition fake series'.
Don

Don....
You CAN NOT police all the stamp world.

These stamps belong to the seller....
he can do whatever he/she likes with them.

This is nothing illegal....

Please show me where I said this guy is breaking any laws, rules or policies. I was simply raising the ethical question, not law or policy. There were many things in 1930s Germany that were legal, few would argue that because they were legal they were ethically acceptable.

This forum had another thread like this regarding the ethics of repair/restoration of stamps/covers. In that case, the material was being supplied with documentation that the work had been done. In other threads many comments have been made regarding the removal of stamps from covers or paper. Much of this was in the context of being good stewards with the material that we all temporarily own. So in this ethical context, how could anyone argue that cutting up stamps or making buck on generating fake stamps is considered being good stewards of our hobby?

Having a 'right' to do something doesn't make it 'right' to do.
Don

No...I said he was not breaking any laws.
You are just trying to POLICE the stamp world.

Seller probably has no clue to what is being done.
Look at his SOLD items....
He is NOT a stamp seller.
According to ebay rules....he is listing accurate.

Kevin,
LOL, you appear truly confused. You are accusing me of 'policing' which is something that has NOTHING to do with this thread or topic. My point is that I have said nothing about policing this listing, this guy, or about his breaking any rules or policies.

And according to ebay laws Bill Weiss was ok with listing used but un-cancelled stamps last August. Yet in the Delphi forum you called a dying man, who had just lost his wife of 52 years, unethical for listing them. So in the Delphi thread you clearly made an argument against unethical behavior but here you are justifying it with a 'it's legal so it's ok'? Which is it?
Don

What Bill was doing was not legal....period.
His listing stated.....you can use the uncancelled
stamps he received on his mail AGAIN as postage.
That is a violation of the law.

It had nothing to do with a dying man who just lost his
wife.....none of us knew that.
There is no secert that Bill and I did not see
eye to eye on most things....but that is as far as it went.

Now that we have better links - the link in the OP only led me to the seller's profile - I withdraw my "de-accessioning collector" remark.

Thinking that it might be illuminating, I have been trying, without success, to conjure-up an equivalent in another collectibles category.

If you wrote the name 'Faberge' on Mr Potato Head ...

Wait! I know! What if the USPS re-printed the inverted Jenny, with a new denomination so that it was an obvious fake?

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey