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Posted 03/29/2016   3:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add yellow_cad to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I understand that Germany has a convoluted postage history, but could someone help me understand what is going on in history in this particular instance? I have a Bayern stamp with an over print of Deutches Reich. Thanks for any help on this. Jim
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Posted 03/29/2016   3:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ddreisba to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Around 1875 the King of Prussia became the Emperor of Germany. That is, he declared the German Reich. The various German states, except Austria and its states, were forced into it. That's the main story. Details are more complicated and require a better historian than I am.

Barvaria, and some other states, continued to issue their own stamps well into the 20th cent. That is a complete mystery to me.

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Posted 03/29/2016   3:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampalotapus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
you may wish to check out the below links...

http://www.stamp-collecting-world.com/

http://www.stampworldhistory.com/

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Stampalotapus
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The Bavarian PO was incorporated in Germany's on 29 April 1920, and its stamps were no longer valid after 30 June. SG 257-273 were overprinted for use across Germany (as SG 117-136).
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Posted 03/29/2016   4:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add yellow_cad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Excuse the thumb but this is what I have that prompted my question.

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Posted 03/29/2016   4:22 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Issued 6 April 1920.
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They are stamps originally printed for Bavaria, intended to be used only in Bavaria. When the Bavarian postal adminstration was incorporated into Germany's, these Bavarian stamps (and a few others) were overprinted "Deutsches Reich" to signify they were valid throughout Germany.
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Posted 03/30/2016   01:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add yellow_cad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks.
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Do you think the idea of continuing to issue their own stamps was their way of resistance or independence? It's odd Bavaria or other states would not immediately be told to get with the new regime?
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The confederation of the German states was no easy process, not least of all because of religious differences. And back then, running a postal service still brought in a modest income.
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Did Bavaria issue its own stamps from 1871 till 1918, or were they postally integrated into the empire until it broke up after the war?
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Hi, d. From what I understand, Bavaria issued its own stamps past 1918. Bavaria actually sought to reach a separate peace before the close of the First World War, but the nation suffered a revolt which led to King Ludwig`s abdication. The abdication was not enough and a new socialist state was declared just before the (Prussian) Germans signed the November 11th armistice. This government didn`t last very long and the Bavarian people moved to a republican government aligned with the new Weimar government. Finally, in 1920, the Bavarians entered the Weimar Republic as a member state and this obviated the need for their own stamps.
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Posted 03/30/2016   3:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ddreisba to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi KGB. I understand why Bavaria issued its own stamps from 1918 to 20. What about 1871 to 1918?

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Posted 03/30/2016   4:26 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When the German Empire was established following the Franco-Prussian war, Bavaria retained a priviliged position that gave it a good deal of autonomy, including in the issuing of stamps.
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