Have A Look At The Groundwork Of The1, 2 & 7k Russian Stamp. Is It Inverted Or Not?

Wow - how do you even begin telling whether it is inverted based on the sections highlighted. Sorry that I don't have an answer for you - but this caught my attention.

I found this on the internet:

(the easiest way to find the inverted groundwork (background) on these stamps is by looking at the location of a pair of dots in the groundwork.

In the inverted groundwork the 2 dots inside the rhomboid pattern are located on the upper half of the rhombus
In the normal groundwork the 2 dots are located in the lower half of the rhombus)

have a look at the additional 2 pics I just added

Hi Robi13,

I see you've quoted from user vasia's posting on Stampboards where he was commenting on the 4k stamp with inverted and normal backgrounds.

He was referring to the 4k (and also the 10k) stamps with the new design introduced in 1899 where there are no figures of value in the corners.

The 4k with inverted background is a rare stamp but the 10k with inverted background is easier to find.

I do not believe this test is relevant to the stamps of the older design that you show here. For these an inverted background would appear as a "ghost" inverted crown at the bottom of the stamp.

Yes, I agree with Nigelc. There should be a visible area of white on the bottom of the stamp where the bottom word is. A few weeks ago in another post about these stamps some good pictures of the variety were shown, but I can not find the post any more. I am still looking.

Peter

OK, I found a great picture of the variety on Robi13's stamps together with an explanation of the variety on the later series. I can not get it to copy and paste correctly, but here is the title" "Russia: geometric numerals and background inverted". The post is dated 02-08-11 and the answer is from the above mentioned Vasia of Greece.
Hope this helps clear this up.

Peter

Hi Petert4522,
I do appreciate your effort, but could you please explain a little bit more regarding the older series and the ghost thing that I would like to check in my stamps.


Thank you

Robi, I gave you the title of the post above. Go to the top of this ( or any other page on this forum ) and look for the "search" button. Then enter " Russia geometric numerals and background inverted ". I think this is the post you referred to earlier because it was written by 'Vasia', the fellow from Greece that explains the difference between the two printings and gives an excellent picture there of what the variety looks like.

Peter

Try here: https://goscf.com/t/12645&whichpage=2#115487

Thanks Partime, that's the one.

Peter

I will have a look, thank you Partime, you need to be upgraded to fulltime :)

Ok, so this ghost is clear to me guys, but I was looking for 2 thinks:
1) background inverted for the 1,2 & 7k, like in the 4 or 10k stamps
2) Different places of possible inverted work NOT only in the stamp ground area.

Can you help me with that?

Robi, you need to read the thread we pointed you to more careful. You are mixing two different issues up.
The 1,2 & 7 k are NOT like the 4 & 10k stamps. They are from two different issues, and the inverted backgrounds are totally different. Vasia explains and shows that with pictures in the above mentioned post.

Peter

So where can I find what I'm looking for because I'm a bit confused and I believe that the background of the 12 and seven kopecks has got also some Inverted background versions

You can find it in the post that Partime and I are trying to show you. And yes, all of these can have inverted backgrounds, but they are different. Please read that post - it shows the difference between the issues.

Peter