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Hungary Scott#34 Numerals In Red?

 
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Posted 07/10/2016   5:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add edw_kim to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hungary Scott#34 Numerals In Red?

The stamp I located in my Old Scott International Album.

The Numeral I in Red The stamp is "IMPERFORATED" .Does anybody know of
such a stamp "IMPERFORATED" style? my World Scott Catalog only displays
"Perforated"(only)> stamps from this catagory >>Please help identify my stamp?

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Hi edw_kim. Those are 1874 newspaper stamps.
If you check http://stampworld.com you will find then listed under the regular postage stamps.

Peter
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Edited by Petert4522 - 07/10/2016 5:54 pm
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Hi.
here is one that I have and is perforated and canceled (in Komarom-boarder city with Slovakia) OCT 1889. btw, your image is upside-down.

http://www.stampworld.com/lo/stamps/Hungary/

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Robi, yours is a regular postage stamp. The one the OP shows is a newspaper stamp and was issued imperforated.

Peter
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So funny , what they call numeral in red are the 1 and 3ft and what roby show are called numeral on Color . The one of the op is a 1kr newspaper not 1ft. The color one are engraved the numeral in black and numeral in red one are
Typo we can start to talk about the stereotype and the electrotype but Scott catalog have no clue about it
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Edited by area66 - 07/10/2016 11:05 pm
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Roby show me a better scan those 5kr are usually type Il this one look look a type l. And do you have a watermark at the back, if so which one
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Edited by area66 - 07/10/2016 11:12 pm
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Posted 07/11/2016   12:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add edw_kim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Got it "newspaper stamp"possibly upside down in my photo scan!

Thanks Much,edw_kim
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edw-kim now that I'm home with my reference let's talk about your stamps, fist of all Peter4522 don't find the good info on Google, at least very incomplete ; without talking about color variation, you have 5 type of those news paper stamps. 1 without watermark and other with 4 different watermark, only the one release I n 1874 have no water mark, the one release in 1881, 1887, 1898 and 1899 are different stamps with different watermark. The problem is that most people rely on Google or Scott catalog, Scott are worthless for Hungarian, The best one is the catalogue made by the Philatelia Hungarica, the Mitchel catalog is base on this book, the book have also reference on the Michel # but use his own numbering very close to Michel.

Here my reference the most left # is the catalog # on the right of it the Michel # and then the price . the vj. is for watermark, nélk. means none and after they go with I , Ia, II and III

I do have 5 vario pages on those stamps , don't get excited with the price, it's Hungarian FT

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OK..area66.i will do a Watermark test and post(HERE)the results! Have a great day!
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area66,

as you requested I'm attaching a better scan of my HU 5k stamp, which is perforated 12x11 1/2 and there is wmk or part of it either 135 crown in oval or 136/136a (maybe "kr" in overlapping ellipses), this way or another Its direction is horizontal.

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Seriously 135 or 136/136a on numeral in color , you really have to learn how to read watermark , the 135 or 136/136a are seen only on Numeral in Black . Stop to make us loose our time and use watermark liquid instead of guessing

Type II, worthless
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Edited by area66 - 07/22/2016 6:27 pm
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"Posted 07/10/2016

Roby show me a better scan those 5kr are usually type Il this one look look a type l. And do you have a watermark at the back, if so which one"


area66.

You asked and I answered, I also mentioned that I'm not sure regarding the wmk, and honestly I cant see that I requested any evaluation regarding this stamp.
I mean no harm, but your answer rude and sarcastically arrogant. It would be appreciated to add some polite manners to your answers, after all politeness in communication should be a normal thing and btw its in the rules of this forum.


Robi
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few examples of area66 answers:

1- Posted 07/22/2016 5:10 pm
Seriously 135 or 136/136a on numeral in color , you really have to learn how to read watermark , the 135 or 136/136a are seen only on Numeral in Black . Stop to make us loose our time and use watermark liquid instead of guessing
Type II, worthless

2- area66 Posted 07/16/2016 10:44 am
Well on the other post you show US 2 different 7 kr revenue stamps, one from one from 1868 to 1879 ( you mess up with the watermark so hard to say ) and another from 1891 , so 2 different stamps , so no error that will give more value

On this post you show exactly the same stamps, the only error know is the inverted I show

Now here an example of a difference than make a stamps more collectable and give a value of $ 50 to a 25 cents stamps

This is from a collection I purchase ( I don't collect error , it was in the collection ) , my point is stop to think you will find valuable stamps in whatever you get your stamps You show us your Hungarian collection, this is not a collection, it's left over of a collection, you will not find anything valuable in this kind of purchase. The peoples who get those stamps before you get everything good in the lot

3- area66 Posted 07/16/2016 12:19 pm
who you really try to foul here, I'm one of the few on this forum who collect stamps because we like and not for their values

everyone know you are hunting for rare stamps

here a short list of few of your treads title, all with the word value or rarity, even in a cover with Saddam Hussein and find some variation on QE II Machins


Guys, what do you think? I believe I have got a quite rare cancel... but I could be wrong.
Deutsches reich inflation, are the cancelled more valuable than the mints?
Iraq (Mesopotamia) stamps on covers. Help needed regarding tha value of the covers. Thanks
Could those two Netherland stamps with funny post markings be of a value? Thanks
DDR H.C.A. Mi296-298, any idea concerning its value, thanks.
UK Queen stamps with errors... comon?
Are the marked differences of any rarity or they are in the range of normal?
Are those cancellations of any rarity? Thx
Is this CZSK Chainbreaker stamp with 50 DOPLATIT 50 overprint of any rarity value? Thanks
anyone seen a STRIP of 4 from those in my post, does this STRIP have a different c# & cv?
Modern Austria stamps - Is there a special catalog # or value for a block of 10? Thanks
Any idea about the value of them would be very much appreciated.
anyone seen a STRIP of 4 from those in my post, does this STRIP have a different c# & cv?

4- area66 Posted 07/24/2016 07:27 am
What info you want, put Ukranian + trident in ebay and you will have hundreds of them

5- area66 Posted Today 2 Hrs 16 Min ago
Lol . Look at the watermark not the design we see true the stamps I can clearly see the lozange on the right side of the image

3 months of posting of worthless stamps thinking you find something valuable . I bet in 3 others months you out of the hobby . You just not in it for the good reason. You will not find something to make you rich
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