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Guatemala Cancel To Order?

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Posted 06/08/2009   1:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rick her e mail is cgruson@bluewin.ch
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Posted 06/08/2009   5:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add laswabbie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know doodly-squat but I'm betting it's a favor cancel - different from CTOs in that they are done in very small numbers as a favor, and not in bulk.
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Posted 06/09/2009   12:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add quigngt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well now, I can at least second guess what a "favor cancel" is but I don't have the foggiest of what a "remainder cancel" might be. Could you comment, Kim? Or someone else comment?

Marty
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Posted 06/09/2009   5:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlorenz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just received this reply from Cecile Gruson:

The cancel you illustrate (and its brother with upper and lower case
lettering) was not generally used on mail, although I do have examples
cancelling stamps on a registered letter to Russia and a few are known on
postal stationery. What I can say for sure, is that the engraved and
lithographed "large quetzal" issues, from the 5c type II up, carried this
marking on the specimen stamps (and possibly postal stationery) sent to UPU
for distribution to members around 1892 (= ca 600 copies of each stamp). I
have full confirmation of this as I had the privilege of seeing the
Guatemala UPU collection in Bern some years ago and such use is also
confirmed by the specimen collections which have come on the market. When
Guatemala participated in the US 1893 Exposition, it appears they sent
several 1000 copies of each of the then current stamps, marked with the
upper/lower case marking which is more elusive.

I would therefore describe them as office (or official) markings but not
CTO, favor or even less remainder cancels as they are not common, but
apparently do exist on stamps with full gum (I have none in this condition).
They are collectible.

Rick
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Posted 06/09/2009   11:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very good Rick, told you she would answer..when it comes to Guatemala we never stop learning !!
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Posted 06/10/2009   12:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlorenz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Phil

you are right about always learning ! Also thanks for the tip to e-mail Cecile
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