One Cent Franklin, Opinions "Laid Paper"?

Here's another "laid paper" variety offered by the same seller, who apparently hasn't learned from the experience. I've made contact to add my voice to those explaining why this is inaccurate. Looks like these two stamps came from the same stash.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/24-Laid-Pap...AOSwTA9X4jQf

In the picture, it looks like the same horizontal lines cross into the green background paper.

Good example of why the ebay feedback system is so useless.

Imagine you owned a manufacturing company that made widgets and want to understand the number of failures coming off the manufacturing floor. Your Quality manager collects the data for months but instead of calculating the actual number of problems they fix the issues as they uncovered and report back to you that 100% of the widgets were fine. You could now have all kinds of widget issues in the field because the collected data was not valid. Great system.

"Fixing" issues is fine for customer service purposes but covering them up is lame and not the way ANY decent system would ever work. Having a seller correct a problem is great but this should be documented, not hidden or covered up outside of the system. In fact, most system are weighted to 'reward' when a problem is found and promptly fixed. The ebay feedback system epitomizes a useless system and would never pass any kind of QA audit. It is simply a marketing tool used by ebay to increase buyer confidence, sales and profits.
Don

Edit: those lines look like they came from the stamps being mounted on one of those photograph sheets with lines of adhesive.

Thank you for all of your help!

By the way, after reading this updated thread, I wrote my first review
on stamp smarter today. Enough is enough. I would have never thought she would have put out another!!

I have bought from this seller many times. I know what I am bidding on and it works for me. However, it is a real shame that honest sellers such as myself have to compete for market share with this type of seller.

One of the things that gets little mention is how these deceptive listings frequently deprives knowledgeable collectors of material. I can't say how many hundreds? of times I have been outbid on an item because of a sellers incorrect description. Even more priceless is when you get outbid on an item and you see it come back on the market incorrectly identified and even further out of reach! One seller that is habitually guilty of this, and worse, recently banned me from bidding because I protested! Some specialist he is...

Winston, I agree that bad sellers give a black-eye to good sellers. But even if a person has the expertise to pick out the better deals; would it not be best if market pressure was applied by not supporting the bad sellers at all?
Don

I've received two lengthy responses from this particular seller, sticking to her (?) guns on the laid paper and claiming a level of expertise in rare stamps that apparently supersedes that of Chase, Ashbrook, Neinken et al who have questioned the very existence of the 1851-57 one-cent on laid paper. The appearance of the brown lines in both stamps is ascribed to the "use of dirty benzene sometime in antiquity."

haha now the thread-starting "laid paper" example is back on offer.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/24-Laid-Pap...AOSw8w1X4pI8

Antiquity, eh? Those ancient Greeks just couldn't be trusted with benzene.

I just went into her completed listings and found eight that are
described as # 24's on "Laid Paper". One was the one I bought and returned.

This one sold for $268.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/24-Laid-Pap...AOSwuzRXfYHZ

Amazing that a stamp that lists for $7500 in italics (Scott US Specialized 2015) can show up in such quantity from a single source...

I also heard that Benzene's sister, Toluene, was quite the floozy. Their mother, Xylene, always had problems with those kids ...

Don, The only thing that would accomplish would be to deprive myself and my collection of stamps. These kinds of sellers survive not by selling me stamps for less than they should but by turning trash into gold. This type of seller will go away when the demand from inexperienced, uneducated, or naive collectors dries up. I don't recommend anybody hold their breath.

I have also used the useless "report item" on the sellers page but unethical sellers like this have no qualms about blatantly lying and stealing from the under informed.