The Stamps Of Turkey / Turkiye: On Steiner Pages.

You haven't seen the Turkey in Asia Sc #13 because there were only 275 of them overprinted. Not sure where this scan came from...

Your Scott 2a is definitely a 7, based on paper. But the design definitely looks strange...

The Duloz issues are common in very poorly-printed copies, like these. The 26 & 28 look ok to me - the 2 after that are a bit too bizarre...

Thank you Michael, not seen those before, seen lots of that type of "Postmark"




Again, thanks, I'll put on a separate Album Page as "doubtful" alongside my forgeries
until I chance on other Sc#7's to compare.




Care to expand?
I need to note all these weird examples for the knowledge base.

I was concerned myself when I saw the frame line extended on one example
and the designs on others are not normal to what I have seen.
I am getting a lot of Perf 7 and Perf 8 in the 1870-1871 series.

SPIRO FORGERY
Sc# 0056 1876 02pi A7 black and reddish brown P13½ $2 $5

He didn't do a bad job, really.
Identify:
Most forgers cannot get their currency numerals correct, the "2" and Arabic 2 are wrong
The Perforations are poor
Spiro could evidently not get hold of the correct Typeface of EMP : OTTOMAN

Genuine



Forgery.

How confident are you that the Llianos Post stamps, the receipt-style ones, are originals?

Wonderful collection, by the way. It is a treat to look it over.

Thank you for you kind words, Mark.
..more a collaboration, than just my collection.
It gets more validation, from comments from the experts.

Good to see it is doing its job.

The Liannos Local Post : (This thread page 10)
In short, not confident at all.
I have nothing against which, to measure authenticity.

The 1866 came from a reliable source in New Zealand
(In that other lots have been accurate)

The 1865 turn up in just about every lot I receive, in 1's and 2's
There must be squillions out there.
Not seen an internet link that describes how to appraise the issues.

Cheers.

Scott 472 Study. (PTT Overprints)
The curious 5pa "Black on Pale Grey"
I agree with most, "on Pale Grey" does not exist, yet
I am beginning to see some "greyish" tone to some of the stamps.

Here are 4
1. 2 types of paper white and carton (unless this is "gum toning")
2. All stamps with full gum, .0003" thick
3. Some "set off's"

Stamp husbandry.
Conditional damage.

Sc#571 Light damage.



Sc#592 All with full gum
Original colour Dull violet

Acidic conditions? have made this issue change to Reddish violet
(Or, other way around, and the pigment has darkened.)

Unsure what colour is correct.

SCF Index Page 25



Turkey in Asia (Anatolia)
Steiner Page 10



Turkey in Asia (Anatolia)
Steiner Page 11
Postage Dues

Sc#4 Detail
2 Piastres
Black on Greenish blue Paper .0001" thick (Onionskin)
Hand dyed.

Unfortunately nobbled as the "secret mark" is hidden by Postmark.



Location of Secret Mark
(Arrow points to the position using a part of the stamp above, (4 "pearls" from the Right Hand Side, bottom)

Sc#6 Detail
1863
Thick Paper .00425"
20pa Black on Yellow
Secret mark is correct.

May be "Paper colored through" but example still has part of cover
and gum attached, I am not game to soak it.

Unknown Postmark.

Turkey Postmarks
Sundry

1863 Postage Due
Sc# J4
5pi Black on Red-Brown Blue Band Thin paper.
CV: $300/$80

With the mother of all cancellations.
CV : Spacefiller.

City Newspaper Stamps (All Sc# P81)
1911
Tricky stamps to find in the Scott Catalogue
Lowest Value, yet lies at the bottom of the 1911 Set.

52 stamps in the set CV : $728 Used $1,116 (Double that with 2 perforation types)
A real collecting challenge, especially used.

13 stamps in each set of............

Cities: USKUB SALONIQUE MONASTIR PRISTINA

Sultan's visit to Macedonia.
The Arabic overprint reads: "Souvenir of the Sultan's Journey, 1329."

Hi Rod,

Nice to to see your Macedonia visit stamps!

They're a good reminder of how recently the whole of the Macedonian region was Turkish territory.




Agreed!

However, you don't need to worry about perforation types for these.

According to SG, these 2 paras stamps, SG N332, are perf 12 and all these others, SG N320-N331, are perf 13½.

However, a small number of the regular stamps with these overprints exist with different perforation, sometimes for only one or two of the towns.

My old 1898 Michel catalogue doesn't differentiate between the perf types but it has an interesting comment that only 5000 complete sets of all 124 values were issued.

Their total of 124 comes from 4 x 31 = 4 x (13 printed matter + 18 regular).

I suspect the numbers printed were different for each value so this might just be a complicated way of saying that 5,000 were printed of each of the 50 piastre stamps.

SG lists a total of 36 stamps allowing for differences in perf but I see that eight of the value/perf/town combinations are marked as "don't exist".

That would give us a grand total of 136 stamps to collect.

I was intrigued where these towns were as the names were familiar but only up to a point!

Monastir is now Bitola in Macedonia.

Pristina is still Pristina in Kosovo.

Salonique is of course Thessaloniki in Greece.

Uskub is now Skopje in Macedonia.

Hello Nigel,
extraordinary Information, I am indebted.
Shall print your post and set it opposite my Album page of stamps (with huge gaps)
real meaty information.
Huge thanks.

SCF thread Index........SCF Page 26



Curiosity:
Sc#297 1915
Early Turkey evidences huge shade variations
Overinked ? or dunked in boiling water? Yikes!



1961 Robson Lowe Auction Catalogue
( ebay Image)