The Stamps Of Turkey / Turkiye: On Steiner Pages.

Hello Nigel,
thanks for checking for me.
My initial thought were a "pink wash" was missing, now I see the TURKIYE has just a single strip of pink (Scott colour) . Given that, the whole stamp seems lighter, supporting your "Fading" suggestion.
I'm happy with that, I'll mount with query and argument, just in case something else arrives.

The gum colour remains identical.

Sc#24 1869 5 Piastre.

Another curiosity, colour differs from other 5pi examples, sort of blue green.
(This one P13½) Mint lightly hinged.

Not sure if a forgery, splodgy in ink and Opt.
I have now 2 very similar.

Red Crescent ebay $1,600
Not seen by me prior.

MICHEL# 3a-f
ISFILA# K-7 / 12

Sc#755 v Sc#1031 (Maroon v Red-Brown)

#755 is $200 mint
#1031 is $3 mint.

The scanner brings up the colour well, the naked eye sometimes can be deceiving, esp on used stamps.
Typo, impressions do not vary, identical

The $3 is P 11½ x 12

Query :

Constantinople GPO : 1917 PTT Overprints.

Anyone with an ISFILA Catalogue?

I was wondering if Sc#531, #532 came in PTT Overprint orientation variations

I can see the sideways print, have better definition to the stars, and seem to have genuine Postmarks.
Whereas, the vertical Overprints generally appear to have blurred opts, with mint gum, or, dodgy Pmks.

Orientation not mentioned in Scott.
Thanks.

The Turkey thread is back! Seems I've missed several pages?? (How could it be that a new post was added but it didn't appear in the 'View Last 100 Topics / Active Topics' list??)

Just on the most recent few for now:

The 'bulls-head' overprints on both right-side stamps (the normal/vertically oriented overprints) are forgeries. There is no such stamp listed - in either Scott or Isfila. While it 'could' be an error, this is not listed as an existing error. I'm 100% confident these are both bogus...

If we go on the crispness of the points of the star - at the top of the overprint - then there are several bogus overprints - shown as pictures (!) - in both Scott & Isfila! (Look at overprint on the illustration of A52 (g) pictured for Scott 541C/D/E in Scott!)

The K7-12 pane is spectacular. They appear - very very rarely - but they are around. Not usually in great condition like this one! K1-5 comes in a sheet of 20, without K6. Same for 3rd issue - K13-17 - without K18. Full panes/strips of any of those 3 series is extremely rare & very pricey!

I'll come back to the #24 (and really all of design A5) later - but the quick answer is that those stamps have an enormous volume of type varieties, including numerous color variations. (You can say the same thing for the 1940-1960 commems, like the one on the previous page...) And I'll suggest that it is a similar problem with both - ignoring the fact that they're 60-70 years apart. It is just an issue of very low quality ink - low quality printing etc. They are not 'different' stamps or what I would consider 'intentionally' different stamps - just bad ink to start with & very susceptible to environmental changes over time...

Michael is back ! welcome

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I shall now read and digest your helpful advice...Thanks a bunch.




Query: What is meant by the phrase "OG LUX" ? =Original gum LUX?

For the record, Sc#24, both genuine.

Michael / Any members.

Care to cast an experienced eye over these, please?

I bid blind, I did not prepare prior to the auction deadline.
They had a scent of scarcity, but also of forgery.
I was outbid at $75

Interested to hear your opinion.

Following on from Page 25 of this thread.

Stamp quality poor, space fillers, used, until modern mint stamps become affordable.

1996
Steiner Page 14.



1996
Steiner Page 15.

1996
Steiner Page 16.



1997
Steiner Page 17.

Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.
1979
Steiner Page 8.

Sc# 529 and Sc# 532 with VERTICAL PTT Opts.

With what looks like genuine Postmarks, perhaps they do exist?

Seen on the internet, I'll make a bid if I can get them cheaply, for a bo-peep.

Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.
1981
Steiner Page 12.



Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.
1983
Steiner Page 13
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Pictormark
Sc#127b Cyprus from Skylab ( CV : $15 )

Can you give the link from the auction on the early Turkey in Asia set? 1st 3 look nice, but really suspicious after that. That 3rd stamp - the 6p blue - need to see w/mag glass - can't tell from picture?

The cancels on the latest PTT overprints are likely very real. But that does not make the underlying stamp/overprint real...there were so many forgeries of those, it is highly likely that many were postally used. It would certainly be a neat item to get. I've sought out a sure-fire method to determine the authenticity of those overprints for a long time - still searching. When & if we can come up with that, we'll have lots of examples to examine - and it would be a nice collection to have of real & fakes...

"Query: What is meant by the phrase "OG LUX"

OG = Original Gum

(A philatelic term!)

LUX = 'Luxurious' or 'Luxury'

(A term of 'endearment' (?!?) to describe something of the highest quality...) (NOT a philatelic term!)

I know that seller - fairly common term/abbreviation to describe outstanding material...

Love that you've included Turkish Cyprus as part of Turkey. Some of our Greek members may take issue with this?! Especially like the cat SS that you've managed to acquire all 4 singles in used form - that can't have been easy!