The Stamps Of Turkey / Turkiye: On Steiner Pages.

I am working currently on the bottom of the "Bull's Head" "Oxheads"
Where the left hand, and right hand stroke reaches the bottom, there is a small
curved ink piece.
Or, if you like, a "white curved line" very hard to see, and only on pristine Opts.

Also, the seven "tiny "squares" look accurate on genuine, and often "blobs" on other examples.

Are you stating / claiming that this is the 'real' version? (with the blown-up picture in your last post?)

If that's accurate, then Isfila has illustrations of a very large number of fakes in its catalog! (And if that's true, I'll basically lose faith in anything/everything related to not just Ottoman/Turkey collecting, but perhaps the entire hobby as a whole!)

If I don't let it bother me - and never pay anything more than a buck or so - then to have an 'example' - without regard to its authenticity - allows me to sleep comfortably, without fear that the stamp police will raid my house in the dead of night...

Ah! No, not at all.
Just how I feel about the examples I have.
These seem to be the most crisp clear impressions with what looks like genuine colour.

From searches, Googling etc, as you, I cannot find anything in print, to support any
scholarship on these Overprints, they are so common, I thought that would be relatively easy, and addressed.

I am leaning very much to the joining of the Ottoman Philatelic Society.

Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.
1983
Steiner Page 14.



Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.
1984
Steiner Page 15.

"Oxhead" PTT
(Postes telegraphs and Telecommunications)

Overprint (Stanley Gibbons type 67)

As shown in Stanley Gibbons 1965 part ll
showing the left and right hand strokes of the Icon, and the tiny curved piece at the bottom.



I have joined ONEPS, the Ottoman Philatelic Society, and had an immediate response, which was very much appreciated.

I am seeking approval to print part response, but in essence, the society, has yet to
have members address the PTT overprint in any of their Journals.
They have suggested if I have any I may think forgeries, they welcome scans to ignite further discussion.

As I am completely ignorant of the legitimacy of what I have, I may submit the vertical PTT opts on the Constantinople GPO, and seek opinions on orientations.

Sounds really good Rod - I'll be very curious as to progress w/ONEP & happy to help out in any way if needed. (I have also long considered joining - haven't done so as yet?!)

In the meantime, hate to tell you:

1996
Steiner Page 16. (the page w/the transportation SS)

I was actually at the Istanbul '96 show. However, I completely missed the Instanbul '96 event - was that IN Istanbul or OUT of Istanbul?!?

(Sorry couldn't resist...)

But also curious - is that a 'Rod' error or a 'Steiner' error?? (Is it fixable on Steiner page?)

You realise of course, I have an effigy of you on my mantlepiece, alongside, some very sharp pins.
If you feel a sharp pain in the side, perhaps you shall learn to be behave.

It happens to the best of us.......Like CRISTMAS in NZ



A Steiner mistake, one of the very few (about 8-10) I have witnessed over the years.
He is remarkably good at proof reading, in the main.

ONEPS is looking at beginning a Question / Answer option in the near future, which, I would imagine be very welcomed.
At the moment, I can only ask via the journal, which may take up to 3 months to reply, I guess.

As a bonus of joining, one gets a free *.pdf of the Turkish Postal Rates 1920-1960...nice !

Semi - Postals
1915
Steiner Page 55.

Tough Pages to complete.
Tip : Become conversant with Scott types A19 and A21 to avoid confusion.

Overprint reads "For War Orphans"

The further overprint, is the Arab "B" for Behie = discount.

The size of the "Behie" changes (small type) from these onwards

Stanley Gibbons type 24 (8.5mm wide)



Stanley Gibbons Type 26 (6mm wide)



1915
Steiner Page 55.

Well, you inspired me to do a long-overdue scan. Can't say whether it was you or the sharp pins, but as long as it got done...

These were actually issued at the Istanbul '96 show:






I didn't get these at the show - still very mad about that! Picked them up years later. But keep your eyes open for them: if you'll notice, they are imperf & the titles come in 2 different colors.

Scott has a note on them - but doesn't indicate there are 2 versions.

Isfila lists both, and indicates a total population of 5,000. (unclear if that is 5000 of each color, or 2500 of each color?)

Pricey & hard to find - don't see them alot - so pay attention to the perfs!

They were distributed in a special portfolio - even harder to find in the original portfolio...

Very nice Michael.
Thanks for the nice scans.
Will add your comments, and afford them Sc# 2660e and 2660f

Not mentioned in my 2009 Scott.

My 2017 Scott is in the mail somewhere.

The entire note after #2660 in 2017 Scott says:

'ISTANBUL '96 Exists imperf. Value $85.'

They have not assigned it any catalog #. (I don't expect them to?)

There are a few others like this as well - imperf SS that exist but Scott ignores - notably the 2 soccer teams in 2005 & 2007. No note after 2974 - but it does exist imperf. Long note after 3045. Also 3071.

Turkish postal service has actually been doing this with increasing frequency in recent years - not less! Scott does not seem to care - not sure how to interpret that?

Hi Michael.




Philately in general, has been pullulated with this type of material.
I take it as it comes, just let it be.

Also, it's worth remembering, any collection for sale, with a page "unlisted in Scott"
(generally) immediately spikes both an inquisitive and possession response, in most "completionists". Honey to attract the Bee.

Queries :

Triangular Postmark ? Any ideas ?
Thank you.



Unknown : Any value?




Scott # B24
$7 +$10 ship ........poor scan Worth the risk? (CV : $300 ) Not valued as used.



Update:........Mis identified Stamp is B28 (CV $2)

Hi ROd,

The first stamp has an overprint rather than a postmark and is Syrian Arab Kingdom SG K87 from 1920.

Hi Rod,

The second one seems to be a private charity label.

A stamp with this design is listed under "Balmumcu" (as at the left of the stamp) under "Charitable Societies" in McDonald's revenue catalogue as issued in the 1950s.

The value of this stamp is given as 25k rather than 1TL and I can't make it out in the image in the catalogue. There are two other stamps listed, another 25k (with a different shade of green) and a 50k in different colours.