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The Stamps Of Turkey / Turkiye: On Steiner Pages.

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Posted 11/08/2017   2:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Chris - as always - your pages are fabulous!
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Posted 11/08/2017   3:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chris2015 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Blaamand!

Question to the Turkey experts here. Do you include the "offices in Turkey" stamps from other countries in your Turkey collection or keep them in the country of origin?

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Posted 11/08/2017   3:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add trabz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@chris2015, for me I keep them in the country of origin.
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Posted 11/08/2017   4:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I organise my countries geographically and keep the foreign post office stamps with the host country.

For example I keep stamps used in both the Austrian and Italian Post Offices in Albania with Albania.

I keep my mint Austrian Post Offices in the Turkish Empire stamps (and most of the used ones) with Turkey.
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Posted 11/08/2017   4:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Do you include the "offices in Turkey" stamps from other countries in your Turkey collection or keep them in the country of origin?


(Not an expert)
Turkey is my major collection,
I choose to organise in just 1 collection. (currently 6 albums)

If I ever choose to sell, you get the whole shebang, albums,catalogues,
DVD Rom of every catalogued stamp and revenue.

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Posted 11/10/2017   2:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chris2015 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A couple more complete pages from me...



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Posted 11/10/2017   5:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lovely pages there Chris, I like the way you preserve selvedge, over possible visual order....sign of a philatelist.
I try and do the same.

Good to see you didn't fall into the trap of the Ankara Sanatorium, Dernegi v Cemiyeti
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Posted 11/10/2017   6:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chris2015 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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....sign of a philatelist.





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Good to see you didn't fall into the trap of the Ankara Sanatorium, Dernegi v Cemiyeti


Only because I'm ignorant of the issue...
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Posted 11/10/2017   9:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Only because I'm ignorant of the issue..


I mounted mine in the incorrect space place
(Google translation)

RA92 is inscribed "Turkiye Kizilay Dernegi" (Turkish Red Cross Society.)
RA210 (1957) is inscribed "Turkiye Kizilay Cemiyeti" (Turkish Redemption Society)


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Posted 11/10/2017   9:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

...actually Chris,
you have made a mistake.

Your Sanatorium is RA186 (Surcharge) 20 paras on 20k (1955)

Welcome to the club
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Posted 11/11/2017   01:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow - a whole new page - can't seem to keep up!

I consider many things to be part of my 'Turkey' collection - including all of the foreign offices abroad, plus Hatay; Cilicie; & Alexandretta. I've kinda drawn the line with the Arabian govt overprints, which I largely ignore.

In terms of where I 'keep' them - well - all over the place! I'm not organized enough as yet, so the foreign offices all live with each individual country in minkus supreme monster ww albums for now. Hoping to change that eventually!

I have separate pages for Hatay & Cilicie, which I keep in my main Turkey album, inserted at the proper dates.

The Turkish postal tax stamps are fun & lots of variety to keep one occupied. Rod's explanation is right on & you can adjust accordingly.

Just a quick addition to the various words:

Kizilay exists to this day - it is the Turkish Red Cross. They are very good & very active. You'll see them generally appear whenever there is an earthquake - they have lots of experience with earthquake rescue & they travel to help whenever a quake happens.

The words 'Dernegi' & 'Cemiyeti' are just semantics. Cemiyeti is not really used anymore, but roughly translates to 'society' as in 'The Philatelic Society' - an organization, but not an 'official' one. A 'Dernegi' is a more official, formal word - and means 'foundation' - this is for registered organizations that have specific legal & financial obligations. It is very much a word (and organizations) still in use today.

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Posted 11/11/2017   04:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The words 'Dernegi' & 'Cemiyeti' are just semantics. Cemiyeti is not really used anymore, but roughly translates to 'society' as in 'The Philatelic Society' - an organization, but not an 'official' one. A 'Dernegi' is a more official, formal word - and means 'foundation' - this is for registered organizations that have specific legal & financial obligations. It is very much a word (and organizations) still in use today


Aha. Thanks Michael, saved.

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Posted 11/11/2017   07:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chris2015 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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...actually Chris,
you have made a mistake.




Believe it or not, I didn't even see the overprint until recently looking at it again after Rod's comments. I just transferred the stamps from a collection I purchased that was on Minkus pages and didn't even pay attention. Live and learn. I'm sure it won't be the last time!

Thanks for the clarification Rod.
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Posted 11/11/2017   07:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm sure it won't be the last time!



Wait till you get on to the Postage dues and the PTT overprints, they make your head hurt.
Michael has (politely) corrected me on many occasions.

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Posted 11/11/2017   09:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Revenue.
1923
Sales Tax. (Right Hand Portion)
2 Part Stamp, (se-tenant) perforated vertically in the Centre.

Revenue Perf 11, 12, 13.25. Umwatermarked.
54 x 15mm

#3 2˝ piastres. Green.


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