Samos Greece Stamp Or Label. Info Need It.

I found this stamp or label in a collection. It was placed under Samos Greece, but cannot find it anywhere.
Any info would be helpfull.

Stumped me,
has echoes for Cretan Issues, if so, Nigel will pop in,
Crete is one of his his passions.

Definitely Samos Coat of Arms

Yours looks like it is line rouletted, possibly a revenue?


Samos Postal Wrapper

all things Samos
http://www.stampcircuit.com/stamp-A...uctions-mail

Interesting Rod, maybe a cut out from a wrapper used as postage?

Absolutely not, Codex,
Your "stamp" be it revenue or postage, has been "Line Rouletted"
this is not met with, generally in privately made pieces.
(see below)

The printing quality also would not match a wrapper.

If no members here offer any further information,
I would contact the Webmaster of the above link,
and request of his time, for an appraisal. If you do, please also ask about the fascinating Postmark / Seal and its Arms.


"Philately begins where the catalogue ends"

PS: Nothing listed in Forbin.

Yes, it has the design of the stamps used on Samos postal stationery envelopes and wrappers.

Michel does list rouletted stamps cut from this postal stationery for use as stamps.

However, while I've not seen the stamps before, I have one Samos envelope with a blue stamp in this design and the printing on it is very much better than the one shown here.

I believe this stamp is a forgery.

I see that the shield in the centre of the cancellation is the same as that of Pope John Paul II but flipped left to right.

There was quite a bit of controversy when the pope chose those arms as the large "M" reflecting his veneration for Mary was seen as being very unheraldic in style.

Even the hatching (shading) of the arms reflect the Pope's arms with horizontal lines for azure (blue) and dots for or (gold or yellow).

Thanks Nigel.
I saw the pictures of the wrappers Red sent, and yes they look more accurate, also the paper is not White like my example.
At least, now I know what it is. A forgery of something I have no idea it existed, wonder why Scott or yvert do not have them.
There were also some crete stamps inside maybe also fakes.
Can I post them for you to look?

Yes, by all means.

Thanks, I am sending 2 scans

Thank you Nigel, I stand corrected.
The font of knowledge,you are, on so many occasions.

I suspected the print was dodgy, nice to have that mentioned as well.
The blue wax crayon was a nice touch, if indeed they are forged /counterfeits.

Hi Codexluminati,

I believe the five Russian stamps are all genuine.

The eagles were handstamped so details tend to change slightly from stamp to stamp.

The control marks and cancellations on the first two look fine.

I was a suspicious of the lettering of the 2 met. blue but I think it's OK and the incomplete corner control mark is also a little suspicious.

The tridents are much easier to confirm as genuine as the stamps each have a recognisable type (one of four different types for each value).

The 1 met. green is Type 4.

It's unusual to see such a large margin.

The 1 gr. rose is Type 3.

Both control marks look ok.

Hi codexluminati,

Of the six Revolutionary Assembly stamps, the 10 lepta stamp is genuine and the other five are forgeries of various kinds.

Thanks Nigel for your info and for taking the time to control this stamps.
Glad that some are good.
I take this opportunity to send you another scan for control.
The printing of the unused stamps seem different than the used ones, so I assume they are forgeries but maybe the others are good.

Hi, you're welcome.

I'm afraid these are all forgeries.

There were 100,000 blue and green stamps and 200,000 brown and red stamps printed which seems quite a lot to me but despite this most of the stamps I see for sale are forgeries.